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Spectator Bug; a whole new form of griefing.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by thebonesauce, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. thebonesauce

    thebonesauce All life begins and ends with Nu Staff Alumni
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    I was just on GoonHaven, getting ready to play on a huge map, the build phase had like 10 seconds left, and some douchebag switched to spectator mode. This reset the build phase, back to like 350 seconds, and he did this 3 or 4 times. Everyone kept praising him, everyone wanted to fucking Minecraft the entire game, and I was getting fucking pissed. I like to build, that's what the build phase is for... But there's another part of this fucking game, a BIG part of this game; THE FUCKING COMBAT. It happens because when someone switches to spectator mode during the build phase and makes the teams unbalanced, it brings up the "Waiting for 1 player..." message. The kid then went back to his team, resetting the building time. So goddamn annoying.

    Anyone else experience this?
     
    thebonesauce, Apr 30, 2012
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  2. PumpkingSlice

    PumpkingSlice Base Burner

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    Remember what I told you about kids ;) (What I said on your profile)
     
    PumpkingSlice, Apr 30, 2012
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  3. Hallic

    Hallic Haxor

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    yes, same server
     
    Hallic, Apr 30, 2012
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  4. Mister_Meatball

    Mister_Meatball Base Burner

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    As much as I like to make a solid gold bullion phallus on top of a tower, doing that in a time limit and knowing it will last about 30 seconds before it is blown to pieces and shoddily rebuilt with ladders and team doors actually makes building worth it.
     
    Mister_Meatball, Apr 30, 2012
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  5. Redigit

    Redigit is not my actual name, it's Tommasop.

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    Spectator is sort of a kind of griefing because you can see what the enemies doing, what there building, etc.
     
    Redigit, Apr 30, 2012
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  6. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    Noted.
     
    Furai, Apr 30, 2012
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  7. FliesLikeABrick

    FliesLikeABrick THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Can you tell me how many players were in the game when he was doing this?

    like were there 2 players on each team or more (like 10)?

    I believe this is related to https://bugs.kag2d.com/view.php?id=305

    Some testers and I just tried reproducing this and we weren't able to. Please provide more specifics about the server you were on - we tried it just now on a CTF server with teamsHaveAtleastPlayers = 1 and weren't able to do it


    edit: I was able to reproduce it on GoonHaven. Anyone know who the owner of this server is? I'd like to ask about a few configs they may have
     
    FliesLikeABrick, Apr 30, 2012
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  8. WanderMark

    WanderMark :) Donator

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    I once experienced this on Beo's CTF server. There was around 20+ players in the game. The problem from what I understand comes from the fact that whenever someone joins as a spectator during the build phase it acts as a team of its own.

    In order words, it can't start until two players join it. So whenever this person switched to the spectator mode the game said that it couldn't start until all teams had two players in it. Either two people join spectators or no one at all.

    Luckily I am a moderator at the server and told him to stop what he was doing. Me alongside some other moderators told the server host, Beo, about the problem. He managed to fix the problem by what I believe, disabling the need for two players in each team for the game to start.
     
    WanderMark, Apr 30, 2012
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  9. kiro

    kiro Garde KAG Donator Tester

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    Same, I broke a whole PL server, there were 30 people, I joined the spectator mode to do my moderator job, and it reset the build time. After some expert testing, I said "Oh I get it now, everytime I join spectator mode, it resets the timer", thinking it was only the case for guards...

    Then everyone joined the spectator mode for fun, but once there are 2 players in spectator mode the game can start. So you just need to convince 1 player to join the spectator "team" with you to un-break the server :) (it still need to get fixed though)
     
    kiro, Apr 30, 2012
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  10. WanderMark

    WanderMark :) Donator

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    Well, either that or leave the spectator mode completely until the game has started. Then the game wont register it as a team of its own.
     
    WanderMark, Apr 30, 2012
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  11. theBeaz

    theBeaz Shopkeep Stealer

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    I'm the server OP for Goon Haven. FliesLikeABrick contacted me on our forums to me know about this issue so hopefully we can help resolve this bug.
     
    theBeaz, Apr 30, 2012
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  12. FliesLikeABrick

    FliesLikeABrick THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    https://bugs.kag2d.com/view.php?id=305

    should be fixed in the next build, thanks guys.

    Server owners can avoid this being abused for now by setting minimum_players_inteam to 1 or 0 (in Rules/CTF[or whatever game mode]/gamemode.cfg
     
    FliesLikeABrick, May 1, 2012
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  13. thebonesauce

    thebonesauce All life begins and ends with Nu Staff Alumni
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    Thanks for the quick uptake on it. Was literally the most annoying thing in the world when I'm trying to play a few games before getting along with my day (especially for a first date and I need to relieve some stress :>:(:) and it takes 25+ minutes for ONE GAME to start. Mucho appreesh, FLAB.
     
    thebonesauce, May 1, 2012
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