Downburst's Recommended Banlist of Ne'er-Do-Wells

Spoolooni is on this list, what he do wrong? Seems to me this blacklist has people on it that maybe you didnt like? I know for a fact spoolooni isnt a hacker, or a griefer.

 

I think its wrong to put someone on a blacklist without telling them,
you simply cant do something like that!
atleast make sure that everyone actually KNOWS why they will be banned!
(and its true, spoolooni may be an idiot sometimes, but he aint no griefer!
griefers would do it for fun, he would tell veryone three times that he'd collapse it, before actually doing it!)

 

Hey man, people grief at least once or more times. When i first started playing this game I thought it was hilarious to knock down buildings and see gibs flying everywhere. So what if he griefed, you cant tell me you never done it.(If you havnt, then fuck you.)

 

This is always the problem with universal ban lists. Everyone just uses it as an opportunity to vent their butthurt, whether or not it was justified. In early Minecraft, ban lists were banned for that reason (though now there are whole autistic websites dedicated to it).

 

Best idea ever!

 

I like it.:)

 

Spoolooni is one of the most level headed dudes I've ever met. This list thing is retarded. Sorry.

 

So it is debatable that Spoolooni is on the list. Now please explain why the whole list is inherently "retarded". Because Spoolooni is on it?

 

(sorry if I hurt you feelings, but I can't explain it any other way)
let me make myself clear:
I'll create a list of my pro's and con's.
pro:
1: a universal blacklist! GREAT IDEA!
2: no need to keep track of banlists and whitelists; downburst is here to help you!
3: so much research was done in the making of this list! unbelievable!
con:
1: you simply copy-paste some blacklists from popular servers
2: the people on this universal banlist are not told that they will now be banned on all servers using this banlist,
if you griefed, you should learn from your mistakes by being unable to play on that server, but not by being banned on ALL of them!
3: you aren't a kag-guard, or a piece of the staff: it would be better if something HUGE like a universal banlist would be moderated by someone we know we can trust.
(I am not saying that you can't be trusted AT ALL! I am saying that the staff are.. well.. the staff, you KNOW you can trust them!)

in short:
its a good idea,
but think about who you add; do some research (their reputation, the way they play, if they are kidding, or griefing ETC!)
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I can see some more reasons to call it retarded... (some more people who shouldnt be on the list)
but I dont wanna make this any longer than it already is: I think we would repeat ourself if we'd list EVERYONE who has to be erased from the list.

 

I don't think he did I think he went through through multiple threads finding people who had been reported multiple times.

This is a strictly optional thing, your not banned from all servers since not all server will install this. It is just use full for server owners who don't want to take chances. As for being told. I do think it would be a good idea to tell all people who are on the ban list that they are on it.

But unfortunatly the guards/staff have not done that so why not let a member step up to the plate and give it a go. Once again this is strictly optional if you disagree with it you don't have to use it. (Well they have partially done that by actually banning people. This is like an extra fire wall stopping people who have been reported but not banned/punished for what ever reason. Probably lack of evidence)

Edit: Ninaja'd :p

I think it's probably best if you bring up the others who you think shouldn't be on the list. Maybe you can help change it so it is better for the fact you pointed out these people. And I'm sure the OP is open to trying to make his list better. But disclaiming the list is "Retarded" which in it's self is a very derogatory term if probably not a good way to show that your ready to help. (That wasn't primarily aimed at only you Gofio)

 

then again: if this list is just YOUR LIST, you should make it universal.
also, you said that you have checked reports, and put those in your list:
you just took people that have destroyed something and put them in a blacklist.
I think we can agree that spoolooni meant to help make the game fair, albeit in his own interesting manner.
I stil disagree about one thing, which you havent mentioned yet:
you CANT just make such lists without warning people they're on that list! spoolooni probably does not even know he's on this list,
and you are saying: Meh, if he responds to (nothing coz he doesnt know), I will give him a second chance.
about the guard thingy: I meant that KAG guards and staff simply ARE trustworthy, and players, members etc. are just players,
nothing tells you "I can trust him" (nothing tells you you cant either, by the way)

end of yet another wall of text.

 

I think it's essential to have a coherent set of rules that apply equally to all servers that participate in a shared blacklist. That way a player cannot be universally banned for doing something on one server that might be accepted on another.

 

my problems are:
you should not be banned without evidence,
the "optional" thing, makes it sound right, but if you think about it, it means that the server owners copy this,
and get more players banned than needed (not only the actual griefers)
smokey bacon ninja'd me here: there should be some clear, fair, rules!
these rules have to be added to the opening post, and the list of "griefers" should be listed in the OP as well: its easier because you dont need to download something and open it and search it.
last thing I wanna add: i never said the list is retarded:that was Bone sauce.
I DID say some things downburst SAID are retarded!
REMEMBER:
retards can be wise,
and normal people can act retarded!