[428] Reudh's All-Purpose Base

The green area is a weak point since the only way up there is by going out the front door and, due to that fact if a builder or knight gets launched into the green area, it will be nearly impossible to get them out.

 

I think that a lot of resources are wasted, like the trap doors next to the ladders, I know some of the trap doors are for bomb damage, but I think some are unessacary.

If a good knight was to come up to this with three bomb, him/her and their team could make it up with how many trapbridges are scattered around.

I find the whole section in green is quite useless and a simple archer spot would be a lot better.

I find avocado traps at the base of buildings are not very effective and work better under overhangs, so if I was designing this would place a kneecaper at the base.

A slight over hang would also be greatly viable limiting ideas that tricky archers might be thinking of. (yes, an archer can make it passed all the spikes)

I think you should take the top of the yellow onwards off, it would not really be applicable in most cases of battles.

Anyway, good to see you actually thought about what you were saying and you were open to analysis, nice building and I can't wait to see some more of your buildings.

~from my phone

 

if someone slashes me and i go flying left i will be stabbed to death by those spikes where the yellow line is.:p

 

Yeah. The green part could be a game-ender if a builder could be catapulted there.
Instead, flip it so that the back wall is facing forward and add a few archer holes.
Also, the lack of any enemy opposing overhang is quite concerning.
This means that (1) there are no murder holes facing toward the ground and at 315 degrees, (2) that stone/wood drops would be nigh impossible.

Edit: also,revise your quarters. IIRC if an enemy triggers trapdoors with a shop on them, the shop's destroyed.

 

I could be seeing it wrong, but i think you either have a ground level door or a high door, these are both bad things to have in a tower.
Doors should ALWAYS be at 6-8 blocks height, else your players will get stunned when jumping down.

 

NEVER forget stone drops. I once turned a 4v4 match with 15-4 respawns entirely in my team's favor with stone drops (while feigning to be a harmless dumbass). How I died in my own spiketrap with no one around me is an entirely different story, however.
Also, I think knee-cappers are just 1-tile high team doors at ground level, allowing archers to hit kneecaps, hence the name. I never really liked these as they seemed to me to be very weak parts of any defensive tower, not to mention it was a pain to constantly replace the teamdoors after knights slashed them open. I never noticed too many archers using these anyway, as it was just too easy to slip a bomb in and cause major damage (not to mention is a freebie to any entombers who are successful enough to block themselves in.).

 

i love me some kneecapper, so much so that im rather hindered in making towers without using them as the base- their pretty darn good imo when you make the knee capper section and then extend further off for the base of the tower with backwall, therefore not making the base of the tower so vulnerable to bombs/builders-

on your actual tower Lord Re ill only say that good effort, love to see people posting designs that will then be recreated with the ideas suggested-

my main point is simply pointing out that this is one hellavuh resoruce heavy building- on the next instance of this building or another, try to minimise the amount of resources the strcture takes up- of course show us the ultimate design but also post a basic design that gets the job done 80% of the time (as towers which are thoughtout should be pretty darn effective) and also the 100% tower that youd like to see after extensive construction. :)

ways to minimise-
you have ladders inside the tower: dont use them
you have trapbridges each space up the tower, dont use that many, use only what is required (one for two blocks vertical and horizontal
you have spikes all along the outside, place them upon key areas and you actually can get away with the same principle of one spike every two blocks (even just focus the spikes upon a signle area where bombjumpers will eventually hit like in egdes = insta kill :))
you have doors on the ground level- thats a big no no for any base defence espeically the HQ/fallback base- think of this base being as anti knight as possible becuase the only true counter to a building is its creator, the builder! archers are meh cuase they no break blocks only shops still annoying but still- buildings like this should have doors higher up (no higher then 8 blocks from the ground that exiters will leave from as they will receive a small stun as they land from such a height)
other points of minimising resources is to follow the idea of width vs height- how much can a building be squished or shrunk before it is ineffective against the opponent? a medium sized tower will probs be as good as a high tower against bombjumpers (some may get over more from adjacent height positons) as well, a thin tower will stop as many knights as a thick tower would (assuming it has backwall) figure out what battle conditons will deteriorate your building and what your building can survive before it needs repairs, the longer the survivability the better i say (becuase you can die and come back in time to save it :D)

regardless hope this helps- sorry for long text, i just like writing down lots of points i feel would help in the thread

 

First of all, what's the point of the spikes, if an enemy bomb-jumps into them the bridges will retract and the spikes will float; not harming anyone.
Also the Acavado won't work unless someone is stupid enough to randomly jump without needing to.

 

That used to happen, but not anymore. It's the same concept with traps that have multiple layers of trap bridges, nothing happens to the enemy only your team will be harmed.

 

It's pretty good. My biggest problem is the doors at ground level. I love traps a lot, don't get me wrong, but relying on a single trap to protect something as important as (what appears to be) a main tower before the flag is risky. Traps may be quickly disarmed by bombs or builders, which is fine when you only stand to lose a minimal amount of resources in the case of a forward tower or whatever. When you stand to lose an enormous amount of resources and potentially the flag, it may be time to rethink the design. Other people suggested a kneecapper, which is a fine idea. I am particularly partial to the kneecapper myself though, so I may be bias.

I think all of the other issues I had with the tower have been addressed by other people. Namely the green area, the ladders in the tower and the overkill spikes.

Something like this near the top of the airblade area would probably be sufficient for stopping bomb jumpers. As somebody else mentioned, I am not sure if the team bridge airblade works in this build. Obviously you'd have to work this little module into your building though, and not use it just as it is in the picture.



TL;DR
Consider: fixing up the green area (perhaps just replacing it with a simple archer doors or something), strengthening the base of the tower (possibily with a kneecapper), go easy on the team bridges, remove the ladders and remove most of the lower spikes on that airblade sort of thing. Good work. Keep at it.