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Anybody knows some fast fortress?

Discussion in 'Classes & Mechanics' started by daki312, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. daki312

    daki312 Catapult Fodder

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    Anybody knows some fast fortress?
    On the start of the match, how to make a good but strong fortress? I tnx
     
  2. GreenRock

    GreenRock Base Burner

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    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :door::castle_bg:
    :door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::ladder_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:

    I usually throw one of these in the middle of a flat map in a CTF match.
    Wood:62
    Stone:64
     
  3. CJIOH

    CJIOH Builder Stabber

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    :blank::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :blank::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :blank::castle_wall::castle_bg::blank:
    :blank::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :blank::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge:

    fast, cheap, hard to destroy without builder
    wood 40
    stone 72
     
  4. i do this a lot ,240 stone,200 wood its a bit more then a small amount but it does the job of holding back the invaders if need be and if you want it to be even more effective add this to one side when people are approaching.... :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:


    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:
     
  5. daki312

    daki312 Catapult Fodder

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    Thank you, and I will try it soon!
     
  6. MINIMAN

    MINIMAN Shark Slayer

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    :castle_bg: :ladder::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :ladder_bg: :castle_wall:
    :castle_bg: :door:
    :castle_bg: :door:
    :bridge: :castle_wall:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall:
    :ladder_bg: :door:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall::bridge:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall::spikes:Something like this is good.If there is no builder's.
    96 stone
    136 wood:)
     
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  7. daki312

    daki312 Catapult Fodder

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    :castle_bg: :ladder::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :ladder_bg: :castle_wall:
    :castle_bg: :door:
    :castle_bg: :door:
    :bridge: :castle_wall:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall:
    :ladder_bg: :door::blank::blank::bridge:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall::bridge::door:
    :castle_bg: :castle_wall::spikes::blank::spikes:
    :castle_wall: :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall:

    Use it in combination with Gyro Grinder :) Thank you very much!
     
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  8. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    This Gyro Grinder is pretty terrible. I mean you can just jump on top of the door without problem and just jump slash the door to get in now. You in essence just wasted 20 stone and 100 wood. You also just made it so much easier for the enemy to break in. And if you just put a Guro Grinder in front of it, well the entire back is wasted if you build it so the Guro Grinder is tall enough to block the ability to jump over it.

    I hope to see you in battle and try to attempt to make it past your amazing towers.
     
  9. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    fortress? no such thing as a fast fortress...
     
  10. Gofio

    Gofio Gunwobbler x3

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    as GT said, no fast FORTRESS.
    a fast BASE, however, is possible.
    always start with this:

    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg::blank:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::bridge:
    60 stone, 20 wood
    its called a linepiece, because it is, and it cant be taken down, or passed, by knights. (yeah, I know, unless they have bombs)
    after that, gather resources close to the linepiece, and turn it into this:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :door::castle_bg:
    :door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :door::castle_bg::blank:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::bridge:
    :castle_wall::bridge:
    :castle_wall::castle_bg:
    102 stone, 130 wood
    this is another variant of the linepiece. its taller, and it has noobfriendly jumppads.
    it would be better to make it wider, because a single builder can still easily take this down.
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::door::castle_bg:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    286 stone, 130 wood.
    now its a tower. its cheap, and fast. Now, lets make it better:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::a_shop::castle_bg::door:
    :quarters::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door::castle_wall:
    :bridge::bridge::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :bridge::bridge::door::castle_bg:
    :bridge::bridge::door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::door::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:
    :door::bridge::bridge::bridge:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_bg:
    298 stone, 350 wood, and workshop materials.
    the bed and arrowshop are in the middle of the nine blocks they actually need.
    there is a couple of things you could do with it now.
    you can make it a defensive tower, offensive tower, or a base.
    defensive towers need a good spike trap. search the forums for one.
    offensive towers should have a catapult nest.
    bases got to have all workshops archers or knights may need to use, and, most importantly, and outpost.
    after youve done one of these three things, start on another one.
    oh, and remember: this is only the front side:
    NEVER FORGET TO MAKE A WAY TO GET UP FOR YOUR TEAM.
    the reason I didnt mention it, is because it doesn really matter which way you use.
     
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  11. daki312

    daki312 Catapult Fodder

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    Gofio tnx, this helped me a lot!
     
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  12. Gofio

    Gofio Gunwobbler x3

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    muchablide. :D
     
  13. allknowingfrog

    allknowingfrog Bison Rider

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    Gofio's isn't bad, but you shouldn't depend on jump pads if you don't want to babysit the tower. One decent bomb will trap your teammates outside.
     
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  14. Agreed, I still prefer a nice team-door over some little bridge because... well if you're at least somewhat experienced you'd now that you can slightly jump and hit a bridge with your sword and turn it neutral. So yes i still think the best design is a 3 thick about 12 high stone-door variant.
     
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  15. GCake

    GCake Shopkeep Stealer

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    Hello, new to the forums. Can someone explain to me why builders put trapdoors at the base of their buildings?
     
  16. ImAwesome

    ImAwesome Haxor

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    GCake, these are called "boost pads"
    I will show you an example:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::bridge::knight:

    If the knight goes on the same block as the trap bridge is on, and jumps, he will go 6 blocks high into the air. Hope that helped. :)
     
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  17. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    That's a kneecapper.

    Archers can push on the door and shoot through it.
     
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  18. ImAwesome

    ImAwesome Haxor

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    That is a "knee capper"
    Archers can shoot through them, and the trapbridges absorb bomb damage to stop the tower getting so damaged. :)
    Edit; Ninja'd by Kouji
     
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  19. GCake

    GCake Shopkeep Stealer

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    Oh thank you so much :)
    Time to go squish some knights :D
     
  20. MrDarkmole

    MrDarkmole Catapult Fodder

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    If I rush and want to get some ground for my team, then I´m using these towers:

    If you have time.

    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :door::castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:

    or this one:

    :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:

    If you have to be fast, just dont build the doors on the opponents side.

    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::door:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge:

    If you have to be really fast...

    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_wall:
    :castle_wall::castle_wall:

    No doors... Like that, you can stop some knights for a minute. Your team can climb the wall...
    If you have 2 seconds just strenghen the gaps with stone :castle_bg:

    That three towers are simply and sometimes effective.

    If you want to minecraft :p

    Maybe this is a good tower...

    :castle_wall::castle_wall::door::door::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::bridge::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::bridge::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::door::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::bridge::bridge:
    :bridge::door::castle_bg::bridge::door::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall:
    :bridge::door::castle_bg::bridge::door::castle_bg::castle_bg::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::door::castle_wall::castle_wall::door::door: <-- Archer Camping Spot:spam:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door::bridge::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::door::castle_wall:
    :bridge::door::castle_bg::bridge::door:
    :bridge::door::castle_bg::bridge::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::door::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door::bridge::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::door::castle_wall:
    :bridge::castle_wall::door::bridge::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_wall::door::door::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_bg::castle_bg::door:
    :bridge::castle_wall::bridge::castle_bg::door: <-- Entrance

    This is the base design of my tower. You always can change some things...
    To take out some opponents that using the doors, you can add a small gap under the tower with some spikes. :yes:
    The archers that are using the Camping Spot can take out some incoming knights, builders and archers...

    This tower takes a wile and a lot of wood and stone.

    Hopefully i could help a bit.


    greets