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wiki todo list

Discussion in 'Forum, wiki and other THD pages' started by dnmr, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. dnmr

    dnmr Ministry of ban Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    So Karpovich contacted me on IRC today and made me do things. We'll try to get the wiki up to date again, and we need a todo list to keep track of things.
    We had an option of keeping it in a convo or doing it on a wiki page, but that would make it too isolated and/or inaccessible, so i decided to just make this topic. It's easier to edit, does not generate dozens of wiki edits and anyone can see what we're doing, comment and maybe even take part in this amazing adventure.

    I'll write about things that need to be done and update this main post whenever someone accepts a task and remove it when it's done.


    General wiki stuff
    dnmr - discover a way to make wide pages more readable (help/faq articles), ie put text in a box or smth, so it becomes a thinner column that is easier to read (find a simple formatting solution or make a class)
    dnmr - finish the god damn editing tutorial, rework it for readability, possibly change style to be more appealing https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Help:Editing
    unassigned - decide what the hell to do when scripting build comes out, since there will be some overlapping content


    Page organization
    dnmr - go through outdated content and delegate changes here https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Category:Not_Up-to-date


    Content
    Raron - update the support mechanics page with numbers and preferably image examples https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Blocks#Support
    unassigned - add default support values to block templates and modify formatting templates to output those numbers

    Karpovich - update class pages (Archer done already)


    stubs:
    unassigned - bomb jumping changed afaik, plus keg jumping could get mentioned too https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Bomb_Jump

    unassigned - boulder page needs images https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Boulder_(ammo)

    unassigned - chest page missing ingame images and detailed info. Does anyone have information about the chance of each contents spawning? https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Chest

    unassigned - command line arguments page might not be complete. Need to ask devs if there's anything else https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Command_Line_Arguments

    unassigned - commands page can have the stub banner removed, but someone needs to check if there are new commands available https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Commands

    unassigned day/night cycle needs images and maybe explanation about light sources, base duration of day and night as well as config vars that control this https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Day/Night_Cycle

    Bugg- emotes page should either be removed or filled with proper content. Such as how to emote, why it's important (in-game situation examples), mention that emotes appear on minimap and that builders should pay attention to it (ladder calls etc). Maybe a couple of words about modding (ie that others won't see your modified icons) https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Emotes

    unassigned - known issues should either be updated or removed altogether since we have the FAQ on wiki now https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Known_issues

    unassigned - modding page still marked as stub. Any modders willing to check it? https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Modding

    unassigned - movement has probably changed too. It needs numbers (height in blocks for each jump etc) and ideally animations of each movement element https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Movement

    Bugg - the forums article is unnecessary imo. Having the list of moderators is completely useless since anyone can see that right here on the forums, and a copy of forum structure seems redundant too. If anyone has any ideas for actual content, fire away https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Official_Forums

    unassigned - player constructions page seems rather redundant as well, since there is already a whole subforum for that stuff https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Player_constructions

    unassigned - scraps images. Can't think of anything else to add there https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Scraps

    Vivetas - stone page needs more meat. Maximum carrying values, stone gained from rubble, starting amount in ZF? https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Stone

    unassigned - wood, similar to stone https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Wood

    Vivetas - wooden back wall - viability, strategies https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Wooden_Back_Wall

    unassigned - same as above https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Wooden_Wall

    unassigned - zombie portal. No idea, haven't played ZF in ages https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Zombie_Portal


    And as always, we need more active people who are interested in contributing to the wiki, have enough time on their hands and brains in their skull.
     
  2. Thanks to Dnmr for making the topic! People, if you need more information or help then see this: CLICK HERE :) It's always possible to ask help live from the KAG IRC. Just join /join #kag.wiki and ask for Dnmr, Paralogia, Raron, Karpovich, Jackitch.
     
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  3. Lieber

    Lieber Is Probing Uranus Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    I had updated the Gameplay section a while ago. I'll check this out when I have the time, see if I can help.
     
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  4. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    Ill update the server page whenever new stuff is out.
     
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  5. This is good! Very good! Keep up good work, guys!
     
  6. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    The wiki is sometimes blocked for me (an issue on my side, not with the actual site), so I won't make any promises. :/
     
  7. dnmr

    dnmr Ministry of ban Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    I've sorted most of the uncategorized pages into appropriate categories just now. The first impression is that a lot of translated articles are terribly out of date. It's so bad it almost feels like it's better to delete some of them so people don't get confused by old information.

    I didn't mark them as stubs, since I don't want them to show up in the english stubs category. It will probably be better to make a stub template for each localization first, but before we start on that we need dedicated people to take care of each translation. I don't want to even think about them unless there are people who can do this stuff properly.
    There aren't even any build tracking templates in these pages, that's how badly outdated they are.

    So, if anyone wants to take on one of the translation projects, post here.
    </br>--- merged: Dec 16, 2012 6:13 PM ---</br>
    here are some pages that were marked as stubs, feel free to pick one and post here that you're working on it. Of course they are not equally important and some may stay stubs for a while. Also, feel free to dispute any decisions, that's one of the reasons i'm putting this on here.

     
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  8. Lord_bugg

    Lord_bugg Smashing Donator

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    I dont really think theres any point in sorting out the modding page at the moment as when the scripting build comes out it will have to be almost complately rewritten.
     
  9. Downburst

    Downburst Mindblown Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Point is that the classic kag will still be available when scripting comes out. There will be 2 different versions, the free and the paid.
     
  10. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    So will there be two different wikis? :huh?:
    Or are we going to mark the pages for Classic indicating them as such?
    EDIT: Just noticed that part.
     
  11. Downburst

    Downburst Mindblown Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Seems no one came with a good plan yet:
     
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  12. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    And I think Water could use a few images too. :noburu:
    (Considering including this as a screenshot.)
     
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  13. dnmr

    dnmr Ministry of ban Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    yes, although apparently it'll be changed soon.

    we'll probably need to duplicate the wiki, keep one copy for classic and heavily modify the new one to represent the scripting version. It would get too messy if we try to keep content for both game versions in the same wiki as we'd have to keep two copies of many templates, mark pages as classic/full etc etc...
    At some point classic build will stop getting updated and its wiki content will need no updates any more. It just makes more sense in my head if it's all in a separate wiki and we don't see any of that content when modifying pages for the full version-
    I haven't asked FLAB about it yet though, but i can't see how there could be too many problems regarding the technical aspect of this.
     
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  14. vivetas

    vivetas Nooblord Donator

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    I start doing wooden back wall, i also add few tips for zombie spawner. :)
    </br>--- merged: Dec 17, 2012 4:49 PM ---</br>
    I finished stone:) https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Stone
     
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  15. Lord_bugg

    Lord_bugg Smashing Donator

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    Im sorting out the forums page: getting rid of the mods lists and the forum layout stuff. Im also going to do some stuff on the Emotes page, basically adding some content as theres just some picture right now.
     
  16. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    Where has our momentum gone? :(

    Either way, I deleted Player Constructions, because those buildings would be considered terrible by most players these days.
    I also fixed up/bulked Stone and Wooden Back Wall after vivetas. It looks like English isn't your first language (lending itself to the countless grammar/spelling mistakes), but that's okay, since I can fix it up. In fact, I feel compelled to work on the pages once you get them started. :)

    I'll probably work on Emotes the next time I get more time, since I did start it, and it doesn't look quite how I wanted it to.

    EDIT: And another thing--I noticed that jackitch uploaded a neat .gif (like this :lantern:). I had thought of doing that before, but I wasn't sure whether it would be good. Should we Can I make more of these animations, rather than just putting up the sprite frames?
     
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  17. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    does the wiki need a page with just variables? you use the list of config vars found in scripts
    (Contributions from Geti, SirSalami, Strathos, maybe Jackitch and not Rayne.)
    however it too is lacking:( zf variables, generating maps, variables)
    https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Commands
    commands, consider this link
    as a side note, is it possible to change the icon next to the name on the wiki, ie where it is a tab. it is the same as the forums icon, does not look good
     

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  18. dnmr

    dnmr Ministry of ban Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    i have it in \KAG\Base\Scripts
    thought everyone has it?
     
  19. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    i think everyone does, i was just too lazy to type out the whole "\KAG\Base\Scripts" part (that was copy&paste)
     
  20. jackitch

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    Yea you're right dnmr. But it only includes vars that can be placed in gamemode.cfg and the team / class cfgs. I've already sent SirSalami a similar list that I made for room vars, so they don't need to be done. But there are quite a bit left, some which GToast mentions above. Plus it may help to have a list with more detailed comments than the current var list
    EDIT: ninja'd
     
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