Game events - where are they?

Guards vs World last Friday left me with a slight feeling of bad aftertaste. Why? I couldnt get on the server, even though I was online 10 minutes before time. Shit, that happens, you say. But it made me wonder...

Arent events in KAG hosted a little too rarely?

I mean, we had KAGoween, was very fine, but once a year. Guards Vs World is hosted once in few months and apparently doesnt allow all of interested people to be involved in it. Now we have the Arthurian League, which is for only few selected clans - the rest of community may only sit and watch the game via a stream.

I dream about event system like in Toribash - almost each evening an event is hosted there, they have especially community-chosen people taking care of that, and all of that is official. It works like: you get the global message on game chat where the event is taking place and you can join there immediately to get special prizes like shop items or game money. Toribash has global events feature included ingame, so there is no problem with that. We have to deal with it another way!

Some time ago there was an idea to host a website which would display informations about all events planned. I think we could do that with KAG team support. Events could be approved officially (for example: only if event host is a known person/clan or has good references/approval from known person/clan) and put in the KAG website (it could be current devblog or a new, separate place, but I'd really would like it being official). We would have a table calendar displaying all that stuff, showing countdown etc, and by winning competitions you would get some points and maybe, I dont know, an official forum rank or signature.

There are plenty of ideas for events! You can do basket-heartball, bombball, duel tournaments, team tournaments, builder fights (imagine them planning to trap each other in a collapse) Whatever you take!

What do you think? Would you like to see more events in KAG? If yes,who should take care of that, KAG team or community (see the poll)? Discuss!

 

I'd love to see more events.
Every day like in Toribash would take the fun away (in kag atleast), but once a month/2 weeks is awesome.
Good idea !

 

I thimk the majority of events should stay decentrallised with some events planned by the KAG team. I dont think a fully centrallised events system is a good idea. Most decentrallised events are announced in the announcements if you ask a mod to do it.

The problem is that most KAG events are too rare, bedly organised, never happen due to lack of publicity or arent scheduled at a convenient time. These are just a few reasons why some events arent that good. ArL is well organised but is very exclusive, its only a few clans and not all of the clan members get to play.

By the way, The Big Arena Tournament is happening sometime late January or ealy Febuary. its a two person knight knockout with a 10$ prize. To join go here: https://forum.kag2d.com/social-forums/big-arena-tournament.415/

 

Organise your own events.

/thread.

Just be glad the developers take some time to organise any events at all, I mean sure they're infrequent but they're hard at work developing the game. If you want more fun events organise them yourself and invite the Guards and developers. Chances are they're not going to show up for most of them, but they'll pop in for one or two here or there.

 

Good to hear you are happy to have any poor scraps that will be thrown at you but you know, this is not 20th century anymore. In modern gaming multiplayer games are responsible for organising events and entertaining the community as much, as possible.

 

They're not fucking responsible for SHIT.

You pay money you get game [In this case the game is free]. Anything after that is bonus, but you're too blinded by your entitlement to special treatment from the developers that you can't see that.

Why are you bringing up the 20th century? What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you even read what you type before you type it? Do you actually think you're clever? Holy shit this fucking guy right here everyone. This guy.


Now. Stop whining and organize your own events, or just leave the forum. Thanks.

 

Then they'll lose community members in favor of other games offering much more.

 

And? Are you the white knight come to sweep into the forum to save the developers from their peril? You obviously know best here. I'm experienced in matters of know it alls and I can't wait to hear what you've got to say sir, today has been a boring day so I need some entertainment.

So why don't you tell me about all these other games that offer so much more so I can tear apart your arguments. I'm sitting here waiting with a cup of coffee and a cigar, go ahead and try me.

To start with, name me some games and what they've done that makes KAG look shit.

 

I am not saving anybody, just fighting for things I paid for.

I can point even games you can play for free and sometimes with even much shorter development time but with bigger content already. Zombie Grinder, Terraria, 3079. But the thing is actually not about a small/medium amount of game content. It is about promising incredible things and breaking your promises. If they didnt state that theyll go for all those awesome content like siege machines or forsake overworld, I wouldnt say a word.

Please, if you want to, make a separate thread and lets continue this somewhere else, this thread was about KAG events and I want it to remain about KAG events.

 

First of all no, this thread has naturally progressed to this point and there is no reason to disjoint the discussion, it is still perfectly relevant to the discussion. I might remind you that it was you who brought us down this road and trying to avoid the discussion by inviting me to make a new thread is a very obvious admission that you're in way over your head here.

First off, KAG has never given out a release date so the development time is moot. Zombie Grinder is an arcade game with absolute shit for content that has been done a billion times over in varying genres. The only thing unique to that game is the graphical artstyle. Terraria is a released game that is actually younger than KAG and has much different gameplay than KAG. When KAG is released I'll allow comparisons on fair grounds but as it stands its not entirely valid to compare them as A: They offer two completely different gameplay styles and B: One is still in development. From what I've seen 3079 is utter shit.

I covered the part about promising things and breaking them in another post :https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/the-price-of-kag-premium.10861/page-3#post-174561 here.

And what part of anything ever has given you the idea that they're not generating new content? Do you even read the updates? Now. Stop whining.

 

EOT because the discussion developed to the moment when we're basically talking about same thing in two separate places, I'll move here with that nonsense: https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/the-price-of-kag-premium.10861/page-3

Please continue with events topic if anyone else has anything to add :)

 

i think the devs have enough problems and if we ask them to do this then they might not have enough time to make updates or even FINISH kag. i think we should take some of those problems away this would be a good start at that?

 

Once the devs have completed the game will they then focus on other things like events and such. Thats why the community can help out with this process and there are those who already are. I do believe that at the current state of the game that the community can conjure up something creative.

//FYI: I've deleted all off-topic content in the thread. Next person to post something not directly relating to events for KAG will be shot, and then given a warning. ~fbb

 

I surrender, seeing how vast majority of guys posting here is against me.

What I meant by posting the thread was to stimulate the discussion, listen to opinions and to plan something together. You probably didnt realise that I am supporting the idea of the decentralised system. What I could expect from you, KAG staff guys is to create an effective system of administrating it or... if its too much of a trouble, just approve it/advertise it once or twice (devblog).

Why do I keep on mentioning administrating it from central point (KAG staff). Toribash, again. They created an extremely effective system. You had the whole big hierarchy of people responsible for different stuff. From developers, sysadmins, site developers, trough ninjas, shop admins, administrators, moderators, game masters, market squad, clan moderators, clan events team, to ircops, bloggers, gamekeepers, agents, newsmen. You realise, that most of those guys were community members doing their work for free just for the satisfaction and fun of improving the community. Yes, I know that we have something similar here - devs, KAG staff, forum moderators, guards. Why not extend it a little and make an event team? It would cooperate with the rest of the community and ensure that events will be reliable and moderated by the right people.

 

I think it would be great if more events were hosted by people in the community :)

 

If you need more people for this so called "event team" I'm always willing to help.

 

I find events fun and that is why I decided to organise Guards vs. the World and then hoped that Guards and Developers would come, I planned to do it even before I was entitled my guardship. It is a shame some people were excluded from Guards vs. the World. It was down to three limitations: 1) server optimization, KAG has currently been coded to support 52 players efficiently before RAM and CPU go out of proportion! 2) My server is not the greatest and has limited bandwidth and poor hardware powers. 3) Community: Guards ratio, considering there are only 29 guards and 6 Developers (?) and thousands of community members we had to try keep the event reasonable and not a demolition: of those 35 people over 20 showed up which is significant when most aren't European.

I would be happy to run more events but everyday events would not work due to numbers as people cannot always make them and they would quite quickly get boring and we do not want them to be tiresome. Moreover, some events suggested are the same as normal servers "basket-heartball, bombball, duel tournaments, team tournaments, builder fights" you can have these anyway without an 'Official Event' being called. What would need to be decided per event is 1) Availability, who can join it (e.g. Premium or f2p), 2) Occurrence, how often? 3) What is special about it that is different to a normal server, I have never seen over six guards or whatever in one server? 4) Day & Time, to take into account schooldays, workdays, holidays and time zones. 5) Prize, if there is one.

I have one competition finishing today: https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/guards-vs-the-world-last-chance-giveaway.10941/ which has a prize and there are others too. I have tried to make ArL available to others by streaming it, at least some of them (http://www.twitch.tv/vanhuek/) - side note if you want to stream some of the matches or commentate please tell me PM, IRC or https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/vanhueks-twitch-account.10959/. In addition, do people just want in-game KAG events or KAG community events (perhaps other games, see how the Guards or Developers are at them or on the forums, graphics competitions...)

If you can think of event ideas that take into account my five points, explain why it should be an official event I will try to organise it. Although just organising a CTF match happens anyway. Maybe 15 minutes to make the best building in sandbox, I do not know but it has to be interesting and unique. Another possibility is also an IRC type game, like Trivia run by a bot, or a Developer Question Time; or a build-a-map event where people can come into a server with editor.

Also a reminder that the Official Servers are now running: https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/official-server-announcement.10884/ but are you wanting events for gatherings or something unique? If events do start, happening non-official events might work but there would be problems if too many people try to organise them or when their "Developers vs. the Guards Events" only has one retired guard and a hundred people watching people might get annoyed at the Guards or Developers, despite them never agreeing to it. For Guards vs. the World, I put a few preliminary dates down, decided on one and make a poll with the guards to check if enough of them could make it; only then did I announce it to the public.

 

God Fuzzy must you repost what I've said in a polite manner. Its really unsporting. ;)

Why are you trying to organise and organisation to organise events? Just organise events and see how it goes! Stop making posts on the forums and do something constructive. Haven't you realised yet that posting about it is getting you nowhere?

With regards to Toribash thats delightful that they have such a supporting community, I hope one day members of our community like yourself will get off their asses and do something instead of idly comparing us to another well established community.

//FYI: I've deleted all off-topic content in the thread. Next person to post something not directly relating to events for KAG will be shot, and then given a warning. ~fbb