Build 156 released!

Why?

Infinite resources on warmup = less running around = bigger castles further away from the starting point. In my book that was a GOOD thing.

It had some disadvantages, meaning forts shifted further toward the enemy, distance from tent being irrelevant. Some people spammed doors as a way of stockpiling wood. But the bigger forts it resulted in were rather cool.

 

You can manage big forts if your team worked together. I don't really get why everyone wanted infinite resources, it's not a creative server, you should have to do what you can in the time given to you and with certain constraints. No constraints is just boring.

 

Contradict yourself a lot?

In case you haven't realized it yet, in both cases, infinite resources at tent and infinite resources in sack are both instances of infinite resources. In both cases the constraint is time.

Also a major teamplay element got removed when resource items were implemented. Back then one or two builders were actually building a fort, the rest could run back and forth bringing resources. That way the more skilled builders could build the best structure possible according to their plans. However since now both the skilled and unskilled builder have to run back and forth and there's really no time to waste the less skilled builders will continue building that tower - usually erecting a giant, thin door ladder.

I'd like to see this as a server option. Unless, I'm guessing, it possibly interferes with the upcoming changes.

 

Heh yeah, i'll admit I slipped up there.

But either way, you saw big castles emerging with infinite resources, and also massive door stacks, which suck. With having to go to the tent every now and then people were at least aware they have to build something practical, which a thin door ladder is. I'd rather be stuck with that than a mess of doors and stone that infinite resources gave us. Talk about elongating the game even more, which was already a problem.

I agree with you that is the ideal scenario, but infinite resources doesn't exactly help, it gives the less skilled builders room to screw everything up. At least with limited resources per tent visit the less skilled builders don't ruin everything so much.

And again, infinite resources is just catering to lack of skill which is not my policy. You don't need so much stone and wood to create a good practical building, only the bad builders need that much to make something of it.

Wouldn't mind a serverside option though.

 

There's another line in the "readme.txt" which is missing in the announcement:

Code:

fixed not being able to open servers browser after playing tutorial

 

This was communicated to MM on IRC so i assume it's a hotfix (we talked about it about 30 mins after 156 was released). that's why it's not up there.

p.s. originally reported on the previous build @ http://kagforum.com/index.php?threads/build-154-released.1240/#post-18896

 

There's still collapsing issues : http://puu.sh/5Vm5

EDIT : 2 players told me they couldn't play and now they can, thanks to the crash fix for old video cards :D

 

Found an issue. While I dug out two pieces of stone out of a giant wall (used ladder for support to it wouldn't collapse). I put a door in place of one, but I couldn't put a door in the other spot. It took my 40 wood, but no support. Took down a few trees for wood, died/respawned, but it just kept taking the 40 wood and never put in the door.

 

I had an issue like that except with a drawbridge. I took it as a one off thing and didn't mention it, but actually it's the same issue you had.

 

I had similar problems. I build a back wall+stone to drop them down to enemies, but when I tried to add new stones at the same spot, not only I lost my resources but the stones never even appeared!

 

Small thing but after disconnect I can't [escape] to main menu - need to restart the game.

And small thing (it's not needed in any particular way): I can't bind controls to extra 2 buttons on my mouse (worked great in good old counter strike 1.6 [fast grenades]). LMB,RMB, middle mouse button, scroll up and down works if that is any help.

 

Erm,does the "- fixed collapsing issues (floating blocks & not all blocks collapsing)" mean there should be no more of them?Cause there is,lots of it.
Drawbridges colapsed good in 151-154 but now they are stuck in mid air.
Stone blocks also.
OP is going wild again whit the sounds.diglindiglindiglingdiglnig.
Will you try to fix the cata bug when you just crash mid air?Dont know why stone never does that :S It has nice patch.

 

How to reproduce:
1 - Build this 5 block structure.

2 - Destroy the castle background block.

3 - Try to build something where the castle background block was.

Resources are spent, but the block doesn't materialize as usual.

 

We need test servers again :O

 

is f3 broken?

 

The block glitch is really annoying, I can't build on the front lines because if a block was previously destroyed there, it just takes resources and nothing happens.