[748][Gen] Differences of knight, KAG to KAB

A few things differing from KAB to KAG about the knight:
EDIT: May 4th, added some more from contributors.

• You can stab in 4 directions instead of 2(so you have to aim better).
• You can shield in 7 directions while on the ground, and 5 while in the air.(again you have to aim better)
• If you stab someone while they are shielding you get stunned. (Prevents jab spam from > all which is ).
• Bombs have one "throw speed", movement doesn't really effect how far they go, only the direction.
• Stuns play a larger role in combat, once you stun your enemy quick jabs right after are very effective.
• You collide with bombs, so you can block or move a thrown bomb with your body

Post more differences you noticed and I'll add them to the list!

 

another GREAT feature cutted in beta. :( bomb throwing was fun, now it's just not.

 

No, its just different from KAG, KAB bomb jumping is more about vertical movement than lateral.

Just kidding, you have to relearn how to bomb jump in KAB. You can still pull some really nice bombjumps you just have to time them better, my favorite one atm is to lay the bomb down and jump diagonally and shield back right when it explodes, you go pretty far.

 

Im talk about throwing, not bomb jumping. Opportunities of clever throwing is now significantly reduced.

 

They got rid of the slash charge ring,you have to look at the sprites to see when to Slash!?!???

 

I have to agree, before you could throw bombs epically far by slash-vaulting before throwing it and your characters momentum would speed up the bomb. Now none of this matters and the bombs seem to drop the same way no matter what you do. :(

 

I disagree. Especially when a lot of shit is going on, the ring on a layer on top of everything else really helps out getting your timing right.

 

Probably. I'm having some problems getting the "new" timing right as of yet, that's why I think especially when you just start playing this version it could be helpful. But let's see how it works out in the long run.

 

Another difference - There is no timer for bombs.

 

You're right, the timer isn't visible--yet--however I believe as the devs get further on their list of to-dos that it will come with the polishing phases. For now just go by sound and intuition.

 

• bombs flash red when they are about to explode
• position to shields matter in bombjumping, throwing a bomb up and then shielding with mouse above you propells you to the ground
• bombs are way more destructive now or just more flashy
• shield surfing dimishes quicker

edit:

• bomb shoot sparks from yellow to orange to red before flashing red then exploding

 

After some good time playing, I love the new knight combat. It adds, as Geti said, a much higher skill ceiling to knight combat.
Bombs not having a timer is fantastic, more skill involved.
I agree with the decision to remove the charge ring. You need to learn the timing yourself, not look at something. In fact this means you'll be better in the long run as you will watch the actual battle more no the little ring.

Agree with all the changes in KAB for knight combat. :)

 

In beta, will shieldbashing ever come back? I really hope not. Also, the bombs need more damage. It decreased from 6 to 4 hearts, and they are so much easier to survive now if you're a knight and you happen to be lagging. I like how the explosive radius is higher, but still, there needs more punch to the blast.

 

the bomb dont collide anymore, whats bad for dogs