New fast movement

What do you think about new fast movement? Characters moving and jumping now like they on the moon, with low gravity. It looks very unnatural and i'm really don't understend what is the purpose of this new feature.

 

You just seem unaccompanied to it. Maybe you spent to much time on 'Classic' and this is how the devs really wanted it to turn out. I'm sure they have their reasons for changing one of the most important mechanics, movement. I haven't played to much but it seems fine and I didn't even notice it.

 

I quite like the new movement, I think it's needed to counter the slowed pace as a result of increased complexity. My only objection is that it feels far less 'reliable' than the old movement. First and foremost I don't like the whole wall jumping business, the current implication causes these little bounces that make it feel like you're playing on an ice rink. Far too many times I've tried to jump into a door just to bounce right off the frame. The improvements I've would suggest:

• Faster shield gliding, it doesn't match the current movement speed
• Larger, more defined wall jumps. Make it less bounce off everything
• Archers are slowed whilst shooting
• Simplify ship platforming. (This is a little unrelated, but the ships need to be more angular and defined to fit with current movement)
• Knights running full speed with their shields down should knock other opponents.

 

A ramming ability then? Would be interesting but it wouldn't stun them or it would be overpowered, rather it would make them fly a few blocks away. Anyway, i think the movement is just fine and should be left as it is.

 

movement compared to old kag is like they are on steroids

 

I like every new feature that make game faster. And dislike everything, that slowing it... (like farming food)

 

spam click to do shit faster

 

So you want a very quick and meaningless game rather than a fun long one?

 

You tie so many different words... just wtf. I just say, that I like the game to be faster (meaningless, fun??). If u like sitting in base and maincrafting for 30-40 min, np then

 

I think the new running adds some "fast pace" to a slow pace game mode. I Think it makes the moments when you get in a good fight much more intense. But it definately could be toned down a bit.

 

I liked the old movement better, but that might be because the new physics are not yet refined. Old movement was refined over the course of many months, and it was constantly adjusted to fit other mechanics. I think I'll reserve my judgement untill the physics get sorted out.

One thing I definitely dislike is wall jumping. Old movement was very predictable:
-3 block wall? You can jump over
-4 block wall? Can be scaled in some instances. Learn how to do trick jumps.
-5 block wall? Better call a builder.

Now it's all twichy and weird. As a builder I have no idea if the wall can stop the enemy. I don't like that. I know that there needs to be something in place of notch jumping but I don't think that is it.

 

five block wall can be easily scaled. just jump, walljump, and walljump again.
(make that "walltap"; you gotta tap the jump button, not hold)
You will make it.
also, a block, then a door, then a bridge with the solid part on the side pointing away from the wall, will enable you to notch climb.
<--- Bridge turned 90 degrees to the left
<--- Door. Any door.
<--- Stone block, can be wooden too.
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(I tested this on sandbox, so it has the standard settings!)

 

Eh, maybe I am just a grumpy guy saying "I DON'T LIKE CHANGE". I gave the walljumping another try on the waterless server and it's not as bad as I thought. I still feel it's finicky, but maybe players new to classic consider vaulting to be just like that.

Another thing that bugs me about the new movement, is the constant speed. There is no variety. I think you loose some speed while slashing but the rest of is all the same. I think it removes the level of depth from the combat. It's one less variable that you have to take into account while playing.

Also I think it robs the movement of the feeling of weight and ironically speed. When you have only one speed at which the player can go it doesn't feel fast (at least for me). You need to have varying levels of speed to feel like you're really running. Right now I feel like my dude has a small engine up his butt and wheels on his feet. People slow down from time to time.

I think this is enough complaints for now.

Edit:

An idea I had just now: how about making the walljump stronger, but limiting it to only 1? I think it would make the player (well, me :D) feel more in control of what I am doing. You get one jump, use it well. No trying to twich your way up a wall.

 

maybe make the twitching up a wall possible when two walls are separated by only two tiles?
I mean, has anyone else ever tried to parcour (IRL!) himself up by holding hands and feet against two walls, then push, move, repeat?
It's really easy.
I can imagine you'd like better to only have one good walljump, but this is not even walljumping.
This would also still allow us to make effective elevators.

(EDIT: imagine if it would have happened for real in medieval age... All those knights jumping from wall to wall to climb a tower... lawl)

 

Wasn't the point of getting rid of the notch climbing to reduce the height of towers? Giving you ability to go up and down huge vertical shafts would have the opposite effect.

What I was thinking is like this:
-1st jump carries you up to 4 blocks high
-Walljump carries you 3 blocks more but in the opposite direction so you can't jump over 7 block walls, but you can still have some interesting jumping options.

I think that would make for some interesting walljumping while not encouraging people to build super high towers.

 

We don't run at 80%, like ever. I only adjust gravity when I'm playing in TDM and the groups wants some low grav (20%) fun

Yea wall jumping needs to be taught some how to new players. Especially for the steam influx some tutorial should be in place. I can't handle a noob overload, I just can't.