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The direction kag is going.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PadaV4, May 22, 2013.

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Would you like to Geti continue supporting KAG classic wth patches.

  1. Yes, i would like that. I even would be ready to pay for it

    39 vote(s)
    34.5%

  2. yes i would like that. But would not pay for it.

    25 vote(s)
    22.1%

  3. No. Kag beta(the new kag) is better anyways.

    49 vote(s)
    43.4%
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  1. PadaV4

    PadaV4 Shopkeep Stealer

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    When i read in devblog, that they are rewriting the engine because the old code was a mess, i imagined that the rewrite will be like the old kag just with less bugs, and better modable. Turned out the new KAG, we got, is far from the old KAG we all have played and loved. To be honest it does not have the charm for me the old KAG used to have. Well i have payed for KAg and i don't regret a single penny of the money i spent, because the fun and enjoyment i have gotten over this time, has far outreached the amount i paid. Hell they could shoot KAG down right now and i wouldn't regret the money spent. It would make me very sad though, because by concentrating on the new kag, there is no more support for the old one. Im not even talking about new features. More like fixing the bugs, polishing up the stuff that's already there. Like spawn bugs, and messed up scores. I would be even ready to pay once more if that would get some attention to old KAG. One could say why waste time on old KAG if there will be a new and improved kag? In my eyes, the new kag isn't like an improved old. Its a whole different game. its not better, its just different, and in the state it currently is i don't realy care about it. What i care about is the old kag, and i don't want to let it go, it has grown too much to my heart. What do you people think about this.

    DOES THE OLD KAG NEED SOME LOVE TOO? :(
     
    PadaV4, May 22, 2013
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  2. Lieber

    Lieber Is Probing Uranus Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    While I understand where you're coming from, but there was a reason for the code rewrite. I doubt fire, boats, new siege weapons etc... would be possible on the buggy Classic code.

    KAG Classic is "complete". You'll either just have to move on or stick with it.

    EDIT: As this has to do with Beta, moved it to this section.
     
    Lieber, May 22, 2013
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  3. Krono

    Krono Drill Rusher

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    What I'd like to know is if we're ever going to get the exact same game Classic was on this new engine.
     
    Krono, May 22, 2013
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  4. PadaV4

    PadaV4 Shopkeep Stealer

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    i specifically wrote that im, not even talking about new features. More like fixing teh bugs. A buggy game is not complete.

    EDIT: Moving reason is flawed. It has to do with the old kag too. I was actually thinking about a discussion over old kag, when i made the thread not the beta kag. And the poll is about old kag. Would you move it back please?
     
    PadaV4, May 22, 2013
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  5. Jackard

    Jackard Base Burner

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    KAG is finished. Don't stand in the way of KAB progress.
     
    Jackard, May 22, 2013
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  6. Conquerer

    Conquerer Shark Slayer

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    This thread should really be locked, KAG alpha is completed.
     
    Conquerer, May 22, 2013
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  7. Hella

    Hella The Nightmare of Hair Global Moderator Donator Tester

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    I was going to write a response last night, but then I decided that sleeping is more fun.

    Firstly, the dev team have moved on for a reason. They wanted the opportunity to completely rebuild KAG so that it can actually support more features, and have some more flexible modding capabilities. The code of Classic was built from MM's original prototype; new stuff was tacked on, changes were pasted over previous stuff, and then it was all jiggled about a bit for good measure. It was functional, yes, but making any changes to it took far longer than it would have if they had a new, clean rewrite to work with. So they did one, and that is KAB.

    They aren't working on Classic anymore because it is just so awkward to trawl through the code that has built up over two years to iron out a few recurring bugs. In fact, that's one of the reasons KAB exists, as far as I know.

    Sure, elements of KAB may not be perfect for you, right now, but that's because it's still in the works. The focus is on making it a well-rounded game, and when it's publicly released (on steam, too) lots more players will join us, and undoubtedly many more people will come to mod the game.
     
    Hella, May 22, 2013
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  8. Lieber

    Lieber Is Probing Uranus Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    This whole conversation is going to be about Classic and Beta. If we talk about Beta, it happens here. Hella or Galen can move this thread back if they think it's a better idea to leave it in the regular General Discussion.

    Also, what Hella said is absolutely true.
     
    Lieber, May 22, 2013
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  9. PadaV4

    PadaV4 Shopkeep Stealer

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    I got it.
    The KAG is dead, long live the KAB!


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    PadaV4, May 22, 2013
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  10. Kovett

    Kovett Immortal Donator
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    ^Talk to children I shall not.

    When BETA > ALPHA:

    Scripting possibilities. Spriting possibilities. New. Supported by the Devs.

    When ALPHA > BETA:

    Classic. Uncomplicated. Back in my day. Perhaps simplicity is best. Used to Classic.
     
    Kovett, May 22, 2013
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  11. Knighthart

    Knighthart is love Donator

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    Combatwise I still prefer the really old builds but since that probably couldn't be reproduced in Kag anyways, I don't really care much.
     
    Knighthart, May 28, 2013
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  12. VanHuek

    VanHuek KAG Guard Tester

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    Talk about a text block ^

    I voted that I would like Geti and MM to work on the beta but if a severe problem persists in classic then it should be fixed as classic is still a great game and very fun to play - which I still play primarily.
     
    VanHuek, Jun 5, 2013
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  13. One

    One I got 99 problems and my name is One Donator Tester

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    I think they should get rid of kag classic honestly. If they actually put KAG on steam for free I think bad stuff will happen, reputations will be ruined etc. They should just put KAB up for 12.50 or whatever it is priced.
     
    One, Jun 5, 2013
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  14. Galen

    Galen Haxor Staff Alumni Donator

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    KAG has a free to play part. What do you want to give these people to play if you only have a version which you would have to pay for? That wouldn't make any sense tbh.
     
    Galen, Jun 5, 2013
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  15. One

    One I got 99 problems and my name is One Donator Tester

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    The free to play part is broken, and the devs have abandoned it. Why would it be a good idea to release it on steam? Doesn't make any sense tbh
     
    One, Jun 5, 2013
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  16. VanHuek

    VanHuek KAG Guard Tester

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    They aren't releasing it on steam, as far as I know.
     
    VanHuek, Jun 5, 2013
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  17. Rayne

    Rayne ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester

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    kag classic is not being released on steam, only the beta will be.

    kag classic will remain on the kag2d.com website for f2pers and people who want to enjoy it rather than the beta.

    there might be some bug fixes done in classic after KAB is complete, but only if time permits. no promises though.

    no, KAB is a different game, sorry, but that's the way it is.
     
    Rayne, Jun 5, 2013
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  18. link6155

    link6155 Haxor Staff Alumni Tester Official Server Admin
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    I think KAG Classic should only receive bug patches. It would be pointless to have full version of KAG if KAG classic gets new features.
     
    link6155, Jun 5, 2013
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  19. Rayne

    Rayne ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester

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    there wont be any new features added to classic.
     
    Rayne, Jun 5, 2013
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  20. Conquerer

    Conquerer Shark Slayer

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    gud, nauw i shal cuntinu my bug abushe
     
    Conquerer, Jun 6, 2013
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