Current issues and dealing with them - POLL

Please tell me how? We already build storage building and we get supply drop every few minutes, plus if you ever had capture the point mechanic you will get chests/crates filled with some resources plus finding random chests around would boost immensely, who says you have to go and dig like an idiot when there are many creative ways to go about doing it, digging or chopping trees is not the end of it.

Also if mining was any easier/faster or putting blocks down cheaper in some way or more robust, most of that minecrafting problem won't exist.

What else there is, exchanging resources with trader for another resource, wood->stone, stone->wood, gold etc.

 

Did you even read what I wrote

I can understand building extensions, but not level based system.

 

No I didn't get what you wrote because you sort of write as if you are handicapped, no offense.

 

English is not my mother language.

 

I stand by my point even more firmly now after having played an epic game (The one with the enormous tower, which many of you, including mm, will probably remember :D ). Once this gets into lategame with good builders actually building dorms and facs and stuff, this build is the most fun i've had in kag. And the thing is, there wasn't even that much lag! I change my mind on the dorm thing, it might be something else causing this, as we had a ridiculous amount of dorms and facs. (our pop was 45 in a 16 player server). Barely any framerate issues, while in smaller games lag occured. If you are going to add this, please make it a diff gamemode.

 

Oh honestly fuck opera so hard.. no idea why I still haven't deleted it. I had written a wall of text and when I tried to copypaste, I ended up pressing CTRL + Space. Now it's gone.

Anyway. I think I like this idea, but please don't make team's hall selection automatic. Instead add three color swatches to the palette that define which team owns the hall or is it a neutral hall. This allows for much more creative maps. I hope you won't add migrants though. We would need to carry them to the middle halls as well.

I'd like to see coins do a comeback to reduce the ammo spam. Obviously you don't want everyone to have all the items on every spawn, because the projectile spam is getting ridiculous, but you won't want to restrict the special ammo to like one person every 2 minutes. We wouldn't get any ammo on spawn, perhaps aside from archer normal arrows, but we'd be able to purchase them infinitely from the trader with coins. (once we have the tech) This could include bolts, drills, kegs and alike as well.

And the trader would be included within the hall instead of randomly scattered around the maps, with those Russian guards of course. Perhaps looking a little something like this:



Also please remove bread. It's super annoying. Also please swap military supplies and barracks back in the tech tree. Like really.

 

Yes. I love this idea. This makes WAR mode more of an area defense than a "Turtle in your migrant hotel until the enemy gives up" gamemode. I'm excited to see how this will play, because i really like the idea of defending your area while capturing the enemy's area.

The only downside i can foresee is... This essentially replaces CTF. :(

 

Basically the game as-is can be heaps of fun, but it requires that factories and dorms aren't spammed to no end, both teams must know what they're doing (and the other one a bit better so it doesn't stalemate) and that some early research is done with gold - because the tech tree progression is way too slow.

 

Which makes sense because you gain ground, it was greatly done in Company of Heroes. I can still see having flags and control points at the same time because it would make up for interesting gameplay.

 

Hope you will find other solution cause that idea is a pretty similar as we use and don't wont to weak up in some morning after month of hard work and discover that CTP are released, but not from us

I understand that can be the way to make mod much better, but not the only one...

 

Here is something to help visualize it with my shitty handwriting on tablet.



Game mode is simple, a Power Struggle between teams.

- Capture resource points/flags to allow supply drops more often to your storage, more points the faster they drop, maintaining them is crucial for base to grow stronger.

- Technology point is crucial and it's where all early rushes will be heading to, it's the ultimate entity that will decide which team has greater advantage. The amount of points you get from capturing and holding it for periods of time will decide how many points you get to spend on technology, players go to research building at the closest occasion and vote on tech they want, technology should follow a simple tree, each item group having their separate tree... for example

Boats/Ships - dinghy (unlocked by default since start) -> longboat-> warboat->more boats/ships??
Drill - Drill -> mines more resources -> deals more damage?
Keg - Keg -> blast radius increase -> sets things on fire after explosion?
from Keg you will get separate branch going out - Mini Kegs -> Shrapnel upgrade -> faster fuse?

- While everyone is pushing to the middle to capture technology, other people can stay at main base to maintain the supplies and build stronger defences.

- Underwater capture points will bring another dimension to the game, some sort of diving gear is needed, water is a very important gameplay aspect.

- One idea I had was to bring third dimension into the game by having flying vehicles in the air and floating platforms with control points that can't be defended or captured unless you fly an airship, no building allowed in the air.

- Even though the goal of the gamemode is clear that team with better technology will win, map design should let operate around so even sneak attacks should be viable to turn the tides around, might make for interesting events.

- For maps with open seas for naval battles, capture points should be platforms on the sea on which you can't build but you can capture, they might float at the surface, this will allow no requirement to create islands in between that will stop bigger ships.

 

Spoiler: Spoiler Hint

Thx for explaining and answering all the question. I feel like the next build will fix most of the problems we have now. Now we wait, I guess.

 

I personally have not played much KAB, mainly due to the rapid development and fuzzy win conditions. I'm really keen for this 'halls' checkpoint idea as it would finally develop a objective goal that a team can advance to as well as help show who in the match is actually winning.
Keep it up...:)

 

Ok, thanks for quieting my worries geti! I was thinking the halls would replace all the structures and super streamline the game. If it doesn't do that, im completely fine with adding that to warmode! Would definitely be interesting.

 

I think that there can be option to mount and demount siege machines in future, for mounted bow too. I don't like limits with amount of bolts or any other supplies. Easy way for this: factory produce supplies with own mini storage and player can buy supplies for wood, stone or gold - 10 balista bolts (80 wood and 10 stone) or catapult (300 wood and 100 stone) <-- only builder can buy... It's only my suggestion from my point of view. Comparing with old KAG i can see the difference with range of building and picking up. Example ( i can pick up crate 4 blocks away or when it's falling down. Just tap "C" in suitable moment. :p

 

Wouldn't only halls (and warboats) for spawns and no spawning at a claimed hall make incredibly difficult to defend a contested hall?
_____B/Hall____________Contested/Hall ___R/Warboat____________R/Hall (irrelevant)__
Long spawn distance________________Short spawn distance________________________