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Discussion in 'Server Directory' started by Leo, Mar 9, 2013.

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  1. Mexer

    Mexer Ballista Bolt Thrower
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    Hahah, that's the way Leo has always been, UnnamedPlayer.. can't blame him. He only hosts the server, the admins take care of the people.
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    That doesn't mean a community can't have a rule or two against it.

    (...or are you saying because it's the interent it should be allowed?)
     
  2. Leo

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    Damn, I was sure he was gonna copy-paste this :P
     
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  3. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    No, I'm just saying you shouldn't be too upset over it unless you are still in elementary school and hell, even kids in elementary school know how to swear.
     
  4. Mexer

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    can't stop laughing..
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    Mind you that saying racist words is not just "swearing". It's actually the elementary school kids who don't care about it. Promoting racism is definitely not an elementary school issue.
     
  5. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    Sorry, but that isn't true.
    Movie Industry: Swearing is allowed in Pg-13 movies (that's still in elementary school and up to high school), rated R movies (so even as adults)
    Video Game Industry: same as above
    Music Industry: Listen to any rap song ever
    gg
     
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  6. thebonesauce

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    Do you even UNDERSTAND racism? Do you know what it means? Using a fucking WORD is not racist. Had I said, "BURN THE NIGGERS! FUCKING SPICS AND WETBACKS TAKING MY JOBS AND GUNS. SOMEONE GET THE KKK AFTER MEXER!" THAT could be inferred as racism and is EXTREME. Me simply saying the word, "nigger," with no racist connotations or implied meanings of any kind cannot be justified AS racism. Just like I called you a faggot; doesn't mean you're homosexual, I use to the term to describe someone who is annoying, smug, pretentious, etc.

    I guess I simply don't understand because I don't know what it feels like to be offended. I can't say I've ever been offended because I have, you know, a sense of humor about things. People make fun of my dark, abundant body hair and call me a deigo. Some people might see it as racism, I see it as funny. A lot of people tell me my nose looks like a Jewbeak; some see racism, I see humor.

    My point is that THIS IS THE INTERNET. Using a word like nigger all by itself DOES NOT hold racist intentions. It's funny, because I'm gonna use the "black friend" card, but one of my best friends is African American, and I was the best man in his wedding. He uses the word nigger all the time. Ever hear the phrase, "There's a difference between black people (African Americans) and niggers"? That's because it's true. A black person is not the only kind of person that can be a nigger, despite it's constant use to demean, oppress and belittle African Americans for years. Niggers can be black, white, yellow, brown, purple, green... It simply means, "a dirty person."

    You, however, let your own personal beliefs get the best of you and immediately muted me just for using the word NIGGER. This is the internet. A lot of horrible words get used. Would you mute someone for saying kike? Jew? Redneck? Because technically, redneck can be a racially insensitive word as it describes WHITE people of Southern descent.

    I don't personally care. I don't hold any animosity for people of any race, religion, creed, etc. I hate religion, and I'll argue why I hate religion until I'm blue in the face, but it doesn't mean I don't respect others' beliefs. Just as you should respect others' beliefs, and not just your own.

    You really acted like a 10 year old today, using the racism platform to exact revenge because I hurt your feelings. It's ridiculous, frankly. Grow up.
     
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  7. Mexer

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    Are you sure you're not talking about just "swearing" alone? I have absolutely nothing against swearing. I do not want to see kids using "nigger" without knowing that saying certain words can have bad consequences.

    Movies may use the word in certain context (e.g. two black people using it in a conversation). I am yet to see movies or songs of people that aren't black using it as a normal word or insult without having to deal with bad repercussions because of it. (Except for documentaries depicting the slavery ages)
     
  8. thebonesauce

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    Are you joking? Lil Wayne says the word "nigger" in approximately 95% of his songs. Eminem, a white rapper, has used the word nigger quite a few times. Movies use the word nigger a whole whole lot.

    I think you're just a sheltered child who shouldn't be on the internet.
     
  9. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    I know what I mean.
    Long story short: "racist words" are only "racist" when used in a racist context.

    I tell Beef: Sup my nigger?. It's not racist, it's a friendly greeting.
    I say every Polish person cept Ej should just die, is way more racist than the previous statement.
     
  10. thebonesauce

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    This is my final response. You're too ridiculous, closed-minded, and stubborn for words. I will leave you with this amazingly badass scene from Drive.

     
  11. RadioActive

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    You guys should think about writing a book about this problem..
    It' simple:
    Racist comments, insulting or/and spamming = mute.

    Mature people don't have to insult each other to communicate. I wasn't online on the server when it happened but my reaction would be similar to Mexer's.
    I don't know why you can not understand that the insults and vulgarities addressed to someone are forbidden?
    @Hella We don't wanna mute every person who writes one or two "fucks" (etc..) The problem is when the insults are addressed to another person.
     
  12. Mexer

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    Thebonesauce. You're saying promoting racism by saying "nigger" freely like it is a normal world like "faggot" is alright? If people know it's describing a black person from a white person's view (or two black people talking which isn't our case) do you think it's ok for THEM to feel that it's ok to say it whenever they want? Have you ever said "nigger" around a stranger black person in real life? I know I did, when I was a kid and got beaten up pretty badly. I didn't quite understand why at that age.

    It's a racist insult. Black people (unlike your black friend) don't find it funny when white people use it on the internet, I swear to god it's true. I've seen thousands of debates in chatrooms, forums, comments, twitter posts and whatnot about this.

    On the base that saying racist words isn't good, I don't want the kids in kag ('cause most of them are younger than 14) to use the word as an insult and not acknowledging it's actual meaning.

    Edit: Redneck isn't a racist term, but it's discriminating a regional part of the US society which isn't really cool, but by far not as bad as "nigger".
     
  13. thebonesauce

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    Wah wah wah. This server's administration team is full of a bunch of crybabies who are offended so fucking easily. Go back to eating pizza rolls in your mom's basement, you weird fucks.


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    This is completely untrue, because the root of this WHOLE PROBLEM, who is Plok, went off scott-free, despite spamming teamchat for well over 30 minutes. Thanks for your lazy work ethic, admins! Can't wait til we get our server back up.

    e: Finally, the internet != real life. You can say a ton of shit on the internet that you can't say in real life, Mexer. The faster you learn this, the better. Climb out from under your rock and go hang out somewhere that isn't completely overrun with 6 year olds like the KAG forums. This place is far too comfy-cozy, fuzzy-wuzzy to be an accurate rendition of the internet.
     
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  14. Mexer

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    Woah there don't use so many insults, you might run out of words from your vocabulary.
    The root of the second, main problem is actually you delivering the information about the initial problem.

    Have fun outside this server and its "oh so ridiculously hard to respect" rules.

    I shall now insult everyone I fight with on the internet with "nigger" and not expect repercussions because of it. Thanks for teaching me a lesson, kag community!
     
  15. thebonesauce

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    Okay, that's cool. Because if you think everyone you call a nigger is going to track you down and fight you, you're pretty fucking naive.
     
  16. Mexer

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    I never said that. But I do expect not all of them to be that cool with it.
     
  17. thebonesauce

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    Honestly, very few people are going to be cool with it. But who cares? It's the internet. Do you know how many names I've been called since I started using the internet in 2001? TONS. And some of the most vile shit you can imagine...

    But guess what? IT'S THE INTERNET. You just brush it off and move on. These people don't know you, so who cares?
     
  18. Galen

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    Dunno if anyone mentioned that, but you can actually see the enemies teamchat by OPENING THE FREAKING CONSOLE.
     
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  19. Mexer

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    I've been called all sorts of things since I first began browsing the webz in 2003 (on irc, lan chats etc.) and I'm the same, I've been desensitized by them. BUT! I do care for the people who DO get offended such as kids or people of the race you're referring to. I've always had a "why should I care" attitude until now, when I realize there will be lots of people being hurt because of this.

    I don't care if it's being done outside the server I'm admin on, or this community. But here, I just want a "clean" environment.

    By the way, I didn't get offended by you calling me a "faggot" but rather the way you acted in context. Again, I have absolutely nothing against swear words except for the racist ones.

    edit: I really really have to go study for my finals next week. Sorry if I won't respond as much.
     
  20. Rayne

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    10/10 would read again
     
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