B837 - Saturday Patch

Sorry for the issues from yesterday folks - fixed almost all of them below as you can see. Not too many changes because it’s the weekend, just spent 2 hours testing it and it seems much smoother than it was, with any big issues like infinite walljumping especially nipped in the bud.
The new knight doubleslash physics are pretty quick, so might take some adjusting to, but I think they’ll be a fun addition for parkour and stop double slash feeling “useless".
We’ll work more on balance with slashes and archers over the next week, for now - Enjoy
[fixed] flooding in murkshire hills
[modified] autoupdate occurs before reading the news
[modified] knight super slash throws like regular slash
[modified] knight movement with sword is less slow (fixed old code)
[modified] double slash movement less restricted - allows lots of parkour
[modified] archers slightly faster while drawing arrow (0.7 slow instead of 0.6)
[removed] almost all slowness in air
[fixed] infinite walljumping
Max/Geti

Original DevBlog post.

 

Short patch fixed most problems (eg. movement ) but ; A bison is easier to control and alot faster.
Also I love the flexing.

Spoiler: I so stronk

 

Why?

 

The movement is still far from perfect but way better than some updates ago, combat became more fast and brutal which is good, there are plenty of suicidal players however, meaning running in with bombs and blowing themselves up on the groups which is annoying and a poor shield does not help much even if your reflexes are so quick. The current issues with movement needing a look into are as follows; it's hard to get out of water unless you tap your up button few times which during fights is difficult, another issue is bouncing off the edges while entering two block tall doors or even open doorways, it's near impossible to enter when you carry heavy object such as boulder or dinghy boat. There is also this whole walking on 1x1 blocks idea people seem to like, we all hate getting stuck during combat on these blocks, would be better to walk over them.

Another bunch of issues is regarding siege machines and how people tend to jump in and drive away when you are in firing position, the worst case is when you charge the next round to fire and they turn it around into own defences or even drive off the edges, I believe the person who sits in firing spot should be able to switch catapult from mobile to stationary or at least have it become stationary the moment you charge the shot but it will not fix the issue if someone manages to flip the catapult away or turn it in wrong direction before.

Another idea is making sawmills team safe seeing as they have team colour now and are capturable, teammates tend to fall into them often or even if builder makes a trap into front of doorway which you keep bouncing off having issue entering then you fall into the saw.
This is not perfect but I don't see any better option at the moment.

There is a bug when people build demolition workshops/factories above the halls and keg falls down after being produced and explodes, even on slightest impact which is a weird issue, it destroys the base and causes people to blame each other for something they didn't commit. (which I admit is funny)

 

Oh come on, what was wrong with that?

You know, if I wanted balance in a game, I'd play tic tac toe.

 

I think this would be fixed by implementing a turning button, most of these situations seem to be just mistakes by inexperienced people.

 

I don't believe I've been rekt yet, care to try?

What I do believe, however, is that I can tell the difference between what's fun and what's not fun.


Since you're keen on balance, let's provide examples of why limiting infinite wall jumping is essentially the same thing as putting a finite stamina bar on characters.

It's like having builders get tired from digging too much stone, or archers only being able to spam arrows in bursts, instead of a constant pace.

Wall jumping is a very basic element of the game.

It is so basic, that messing with that element changes entire game play strategies.

I'm pretty sure I asked a reasonable question.

How exactly was infinite walljumping abused?

 

I don't believe having the ability to jump 7 blocks is abuse.

 

I get the infinite thing kouji, but it was nerfed down below 7.

That's way too low.


Plus, you can simply some blocks in front of vertical tower and that would stop any infinite bullshit.

It's an easy builder fix, you don't need to mess with game mechanics to fix that problem.

i.e. tower design

 

And also, it doesn't matter if theres an easy builder fix, its still a bug that needs to be fixed regardless.

EDIT: How are you messing with game mechanics?

 

Clearly, you've never been a knight stuck in a pit of unmined stone, with no way out.

You can't even dig your own way out like you could in classic.

There's a huge problem in the game mechanics, when a knight, the character that is supposedly able to traverse a wide array of terrains, is so easily trapped by natural formations, that no enemy builder has even touched.

 

Brilly, you don't understand....

Infinite wall jumping is when you shield up, go up against a SINGLE wall, and just keep wall jumping.
Yu are using a SINGLE wall, not two.

 

looks like you're screwed if you're trapped in this pit
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not acceptable, btw

 

Looks like you should suicide and try to not fall in it next time, point is it was a bug. So they removed it.

 

I'm saying that that pit ain't particularly deep.

I'm asking for 7 block walljump on single vertical wall.

Doesn't have to be infinite, but at least 7.