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Archer Meele weapon

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Warren2997, Sep 19, 2013.

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Do you think you think this should be added?

  1. Yea plz add this DEVs!

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  2. Na

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  1. Warren2997

    Warren2997 Shipwright

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    I have been thinking the archer could have his/her knife back it would only appear if you run out of arrows I know that the archer is ment for ranged attacks but he is defenceless without arrows.
     
    Warren2997, Sep 19, 2013
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  2. Gurin

    Gurin Stop That! Global Moderator Donator Tester

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    Archers aren't meant for melee, they are meant to stay at range and snipe the enemies, while, helping your knights. (By shooting a enemy slashing knight, etc.)
    The melee just ruined the fact of this..
    Yes, the archers get rolled when face to ace with a knight, but, that is not their purpose on the battlefield!

    The knife in the previous builds, really, just was OP (if known how to use it.), with the backstab doing three hearts. (50% chance backstab, seriously.)

    The knife made basically all the archers go against the knights, head on.

    People complain how knights are "over powered", but tbh, I think they're fine. Archers can deal with them, they just need to know how to do it. The right way.


    Seriously, knife sucks, no. Just no.. :kappa:
     
    Gurin, Sep 19, 2013
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  3. Raelian

    Raelian Bison Rider

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    I'd say no to melee weapons for archers, for the sole reason that last time the devs added the knife it ended up OP at first and then it was nerfed so badly in order to balance the class that people hardly used it due to how difficult it was to pull it off, making the whole knife worthless.

    Also, if you end up without arrows in the middle of a fight, you're better off retreating back to your Hall and getting more ammo because a tiny little knife won't save you from a knight.

    Even if someone would come up with a different melee weapon for archers, what would be the point? If the archer melee weapon becomes better or just as good as the bow, when it comes to killing knights, it would make the class unfair (good both in melee AND range? yeah, no) and if the new melee weapon sucks then there would be no point to add it at all.

    My advice is to learn to retreat when out of ammo and keep an eye on your arrow reserves.
     
    Raelian, Sep 19, 2013
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  4. Reudh

    Reudh Haxor Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    Archers are quite fun to play currently. The knife didn't really feel intuitive for me - i love the grapple far more.

    Consider this - as an archer, you are meant to be long distance support for the knights. When you have a knife, you are more likely to want to get into melee range, as you are not totally devoid of options.

    But now, with the grapple, it means that an archer player is more likely to want to evade a knight, than go at close range, especially with the archer's pitiful health.

    TL;DR: archer long distance good, melee range bad
     
    Reudh, Sep 19, 2013
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  5. Boea

    Boea Such Beta

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    The hilarious thing is that even with a useless knife, it still allowed archers to go toe to toe with knights without being completely unfathomable to fight, as they are now.
    Yes, even Contrary had to give me credit taking on knights alone, with no grapple hook, stuns, or knife, back then.

    But yes, the knife was for all intents and purpose, useless, they weren't good at melee at all, while the knights are amazing in ranged combat, they have bombs, and amazing speed with their shield.
    Archers had to deal with it with their moderate damage, low speed, and the fact that they can survive at least one slash.

    It worked, and now archers are now more of a pox than knights were in those times.
    So don't tell me having no grapple hook makes them useless, that the multi shot is pretty much the saving grace of archers, and don't tell me that running out of ammo was your anathema, you can still get a free reload by changing your class to an archer at any spawn point even if you are an archer.
     
    Boea, Sep 19, 2013
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  6. Galen

    Galen Haxor Staff Alumni Donator

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    Knife was there, got replaced with grapple, thus, it most likely won't come back. Locked.
     
    Galen, Sep 19, 2013
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