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Bring back archer making arrow from trees

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by GloriousToast, Sep 19, 2013.

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bring back yes or no

  1. yes

    44.4%
  2. no

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  1. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    Face it, archers run out of arrows way too quickly.
    agree? disagree?
     
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  2. Galen

    Galen Haxor Staff Alumni Donator

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    >military supplies

    If people would build them often enough instead of their 'fancy-pants' water ammo/bomb ammo/countless other siege utilities/equipment shops, then you would have enough arrows.
     
  3. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    This is the kind of thinking that I find not right.
    If knights can attack infinitely, why can't archers be able too? Right from the start an archer can do a maximum of 30 hearts of damage and accuracy is usually low, and knights can still shield arrows making it even lower. If an archer runs out of ammo the archer has to restock and that means you have to go back to the nearest hall with supplies, where a knight can continue to press.

    I feel to be successful as an archer, you have to be either an opportunist or be lucky.

    it's not that bad.
    archers need trees to make arrows
    builders need logs for wood
     
  4. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    Good luck finding enough trees to support you. Seeds get destroyed all the time and builders farm that shit.
     
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  5. Auburn

    Auburn Prepare Yourself! Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Tester
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    Here's a suggestion: maybe instead of there being X amount of arrows made from military supplies, archers could just walk past a military supplies and pick up say 60 arrows (could be more or less, depending on what people say), and there's no limit to how many arrows the factory produces, just that an archer can only restock up to 60 arrows from the factory. This would make it so the archer can't sit up at the top of a tower and camp all day with infinite ammo, and they don't have to worry about another greedy archer taking all the ammo.
     
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  6. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    Spawn with 30, pickup possible 60 more. Easiest 90 to spam. Horrible.
     
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  7. Nighthawk

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    If you're going to complain about Archer SPAM, you ought to go argue with the devs to remove the triple shot.

    'Til then, I'm all for the idea of Archers having easier access to arrows. It really sucks when teammates hog them and you're left with only 30 (which get used up real quick with the changes made to Archer recently).
     
  8. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    Dealing with 1-2 archers using legolas shot really isn't that hard if you have bombs / can get in range. It starts turning into a complete annoyance if archers could get around 90 archers that quickly.

    Now imagine playing against 3+ archers on a tower constantly spamming that much arrows with little effort. Or imagine if the other team all switches to archer.
     
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  9. Nighthawk

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    They can't do anything against even 1 Knight as long as he shields. He'll suffer some knockback, yeah, but other than that, nothing.

    And if an entire team switched to Archer in the current build the same thing could still occur. You don't need to have 90 arrows to spam. 30 arrows = 10 triple shots, and even if a mil-supplies shop doesn't make arrows fast enough to support the entire team, they can just suicide and get another 30 arrows.
     
  10. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    You /do/ know that the new legolas shot can break shields if you're close enough?
     
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  11. Nighthawk

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    Yes, I know that. But if you get that close, the Knight's probably gonna whip a bomb out and blow your face off.

    Also, if the entire team went defensive as Archers they would never win. So they make up for their insane spam by being completely ineffectual. :P
     
  12. Guitarman

    Guitarman Haxor Tester Official Server Admin

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    If they don't cook their bombs you can always throw it back and blow their faces off. You get bonus points looking like a badass whilst doing so.
     
  13. Auburn

    Auburn Prepare Yourself! Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Donator Tester
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    I think I may have been unclear in my previous post:
    I feel that archers should only be able to carry 60 arrows max, but they can be constantly recharged at a military supplies. Also, if you're worried about archers spamming them all, they probably won't even be able to use them all once a good knight comes along
     
  14. Boea

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    Shields block enemy bombs, if anything, you'd be saving the knight from the arrow spam.

    To put it bluntly, I don't like the combination of "Multi Shot" AND "Close Range Stun".

    I still remember what pre B866 [~B840] archers were, and I can tell you, they did major damage even if it wasn't guaranteed like that, and the close-range stun would've just made it so they could actually get away from the knights since the stuns don't last long enough to charge a .5 arrow, back in the day.
    And I say this is par for the course, because in Knight-Knight combat, no hit is guaranteed, even a double slash, it's a matter of shielding, and it isn't so hard.
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2013
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