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[509] The perfect tower...

Discussion in 'Builder' started by faygo94, Apr 9, 2013.

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  1. faygo94

    faygo94 Catapult Fodder

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    • wrong section, moved and warned
    I'm in search of a tower that is universally safe and effective. It should meet the following requirments.

    • Should be less than or equal to 250 stone and 250 wood
    • Should be able to construct in about a minute
    • Easily repairable and upgradable
    • Hard for knights and builders to get into or around
    Optional but recommended

    • Archer area (nest, arrow shop, hideout etc...) because everyone loves archers defending their towers
    • Area for shops (bombs and bed)
    • Easy for new players to get up to (I.E. no boost pads most new players do not know how to use them.
    • Easily navigable (easy to get to all parts of the tower without getting stuck or speared by a spike)
    I look forward to see all your buildings, the ones that meet all the requirements and most of the optional ones I will consider to be the perfect tower. Good luck to all. 25252525

    P.S. Build 509
     
    faygo94, Apr 9, 2013
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  2. Conquerer

    Conquerer Shark Slayer

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    no tower is perfect, there is always that minor flaw like archers letting the bombs into the archer nest full with 17 archers inside.

    also catapults stuff things up. a lot.
     
    Conquerer, Apr 10, 2013
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  3. Force

    Force Shark Slayer

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    If you found the 'perfect' building that would be in your opinion, and may not be 'perfect' to others. Maybe you should change 'perfect' to something else. And also like Conquerer said, No building is perfect.
     
    Force, Apr 10, 2013
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  4. killatron46

    killatron46 Cata Whore Donator
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    killatron46, Apr 11, 2013
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  5. faygo94

    faygo94 Catapult Fodder

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    I saw these posts and they aren't quite what I'm looking for, I'm looking for a Tower not a shabby 1 block thick wall with some supports.
     
    faygo94, Apr 11, 2013
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  6. Gofio

    Gofio Gunwobbler x3

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    Perfect depends on the kind of builder.
    If you're the type that will defend a tower, repair it, and upgrade it, then you should make a bighuge, which can be upgraded easily, and can hold back knights and builders just as well as every other tower. Then add archernests, kneecappers, catapult nests...

    If you just build a tower, go offensive and hope it will hold back enemies long enough, you should use stairs, they are very usefull on hills, and can be very annoying for the enemy. They can be termited, though, but towers can be termited too. (and it takes longer to termite stairs, because the same amount of blocks can be used to make a wider structure.

    After making one of these, start making it better.
    The perfect tower doesn't exist, just use a good model, then make it "perfect".
     
    Gofio, Apr 21, 2013
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  7. faygo94

    faygo94 Catapult Fodder

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    Thanks for the advice ;)
     
    faygo94, Apr 21, 2013
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  8. owthathurts

    owthathurts Shark Slayer

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    "I saw these posts and they aren't quite what I'm looking for, I'm looking for a Tower not a shabby 1 block thick wall with some supports."

    what do you want for 250 stone and 250 wood? seriously..
     
    owthathurts, Sep 8, 2013
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  9. Asu

    Asu THD Team THD Team Forum Moderator

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    The perfect tower does not exists. And if it was exisiting, you would need a thousand of stone.
    There is always a weak area in a tower.
     
    Asu, Sep 10, 2013
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  10. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk gaurenteed shitter

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    I don't care how good your tower is - one keg right at its base and it's over.

    As such, I think the best tower would have to be protected by countless mounted bows.
     
    Nighthawk, Sep 11, 2013
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  11. I3lue

    I3lue Haxor
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    Did you know that he's talking about Classic?

    kthxbye
     
    I3lue, Sep 13, 2013
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  12. Conquerer

    Conquerer Shark Slayer

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    A 'perfect' tower with 1000 stone isn't perfect. It would take a good while to mine that stone and then to build the actual tower - not to mention the cost of repairs.
     
    Conquerer, Sep 14, 2013
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  13. Gurin

    Gurin Stop That! Global Moderator Donator Tester

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    It isn't just the tower that does all the work, the main builder needs to keep an eye on his tower, to make sure nothing happens to it.
    No tower is perfect, it is the player that makes it seem that it is perfect.. From collapses, mini spikes, and baiting; one can simply rek your oponent if he/she knows what he/she is doing with that tower.

    Less that 250 stone & wood? You should check out gather for once, small, great towers that will do.
    You say that you want less than those mats? One should build its tower, build shops, then build "modifications" on his/her tower. If needed.

    Oh, and catapults will just rek everything, lol. Thick towers are worse than skinny.
    By..
    A] Thick towers, if damaged, cannot be repaired from cover.
    B] Wont let your team up.

    Skinny:
    A] Can repair.
    B] Not much mats. Also, if damaged, your team should be able to get back up, with some parkour.
    You don't want to waste your materials at all! It could mean life or death!
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2013
    Gurin, Sep 14, 2013
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  14. Conquerer

    Conquerer Shark Slayer

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    But for Conqurs's ultra impenetrable thick+repairable tower, try this! 25252525
    :door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door:
    :door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door:
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    :door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door::door:
     
    Conquerer, Sep 20, 2013
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  15. PixelatedHero

    PixelatedHero Catapult Fodder

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    Thats acctually a really good idea... :P
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 23, 2013, Original Post Date: Sep 23, 2013 ---
    Actually, there ARE KEGS in classic.
     
    PixelatedHero, Sep 23, 2013
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  16. I3lue

    I3lue Haxor
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    I know this, pixel, but notice the part of the quote that is bolded and underlined.

    Also, what Gurin said has a lot to do with it. Towers can't manage themselves and will always fall without their stouthearted builders. Sigsson on BC Flatmaps a couple days a go built a tower right next to our Vidar-looking thing even though he was on the opposing team. He was literally 5 blocks away from our main tower on red.

    But, with his great defense and constant repairs he was able to fend off 50 tickets. Again, Sigss was on blue and built RIGHT next to our Vidar tower. A good design, sure, that's pretty important but the lifeblood of what makes a tower so great is the builder that manages it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2013
    I3lue, Sep 23, 2013
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  17. CrystalClear

    CrystalClear Haxor
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    If it were to be perfect you wouldn't need thousands of stone...
     
    CrystalClear, Sep 25, 2013
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  18. Chumind

    Chumind Bison Rider

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    :blank::blank::blank::blank::blank::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :blank::blank::blank::blank::blank::door::castle_wall::castle_wall::door:
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    :dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt::dirt: :castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
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    Chumind, Sep 26, 2013
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  19. sinnertie

    sinnertie Ministry of Hatred Forum Moderator Donator Tester
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    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall::castle_wall:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door::door::door:
    :castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::castle_bg::door::door::door:
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    Maybe this one isn't perfect too, but for sure it will require some struggle to pass through.
     
    sinnertie, Sep 26, 2013
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  20. CrystalClear

    CrystalClear Haxor
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    Are you sure you can get over with that door right there?
     
    CrystalClear, Sep 26, 2013
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