Barge / Platform Boat

First, let me preface : I understand War Boats / others exist, however I think it's be nice to have something a bit wider and more open. Let me explain :

I think it would be neat to have some sort of floating platform you can build on, e.g. a barge. You should only be able to build on top of the barge. This would make it so you could build towers floating on water, a platform for putting siege weapons on, or an archers nest.

In the event that is difficult to implement :

It could be a long platform with a small steering house on the back-end side. It sacrifices armor / coverage for having a wide open, long surface capable of carrying many people that can each move around on top. It also acts as a floating platform, and can deploy a siege unit. The key is it would be slower and longer than a long-boat / war-boat / whatever and more versatile as a floating platform / bridge.

 

Longboats.
You can't build on them, but it can do all the other things you want.

 

I was thinking of something *longer*. Think of the difference between well, a long boat and a barge or ferry.

Long enough for two siege units perhaps.

Another idea : Perhaps you can anchor it, and then it becomes a permanent, stationary build platform.

 

Just to point out some problems I see with the idea.

Most maps that have water on them barely can even fit Warboats on them. Typically what comes to mind is the Capture the Hall map where there is one large center floating island. When driving a Warboat underneath, it barely fits, most of the time having to sink down into the water and slowly scraping by underneath.

If what you want is a movable building platform, think of the major issues that would cause. All someone would try to do is build a large tower on top and then it would never be able to go anywhere.

Building in water is already easily done because of the dirt back walls.

Sorry to shoot your idea down, but I just don't see how it could practically be implemented into the game. It could become a mod for the Roleplay server or something, but adding it to the official game seems a bit much.

 

Barges are flat, and would be flatter than a war boat.

Indeed. I think this would be too hard to implement anyway. Likely the "anchor" idea I said would have to be the way. Move it -> anchor it -> now it's stationary forever, but you can build on it.

The entire point of the idea is a flat, open, movable surface on water. It's a bridge, it's a transport, it's a platform, it's a place to mount a siege unit. It's not a boat, it's a barge which is a floating platform essentially.

It would encourage larger, open water maps at the very least. I think the map design for many of them are quite stupid. Many of them have the same design elements like too much bed rock, and too little water. Every single map encourages only three tactics, towers, traps and knight feeding frenzies. It'd be nice to see more open water maps with limited land, or even maps that aren't completely filled with bedrock.

 

*facepalm*

Did you even read this part?

Because it looks like you just took my quote out of context, which doesn't make any sense because I posted right above you.

I will restate what I said before.

Warboats barely fit.

So barges with big towers built on them would not fit at all.

Simple as that.

Map design is something you can only change by making the map yourself. If you want to make a map and create a mod for your own server where this would work, thats fine.

 

I like the idea of a really big ass boat that has room to fight on. Have you had a look at the game's files? You could probably just take the raft, stretch its sprite a bit, and you'll have yourself a barge.

 

Yes, I did. I actually addressed it in several ways. Your response actually tells me you did not read what I wrote. Here you go again :

See?

Like I said, barges are flat. There would not be this problem. I backtracked on the building-on-top-of-a-moving-vehicle idea already before you responded.

You see, building with blocks makes static structures. The engine is probably programmed in such a way where it would be hard to transfer these constructs to dynamic, moving structures like a boat. As such I don't think that part is practical. That is why I suggested this :

The real reason I would want a barge is mainly to A) bridge water, B) make a floating platform you can use as mobile "land" (even if it doesn't include building) and C) provide a floating platform to fight on. The boats currently are fairly enclosed. Barges might make for interesting tactics when assaulting fortifications at water level.

Or, you know, the developers could make a game with maps that actually let you use all of the mechanics of the game in interesting ways. A boat not being able to fit under something on a stock map is more of a design error than it is an unchangeable feature.

Anyway, my intent isn't to attack the devs. They are doing a great job and I'm sure they have enough on their plate. They probably also expect that the community will step up and make the variety of fun/interesting maps later.

I am glad I have your permission to make my own maps though , thanks.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 29, 2013, Original Post Date: Nov 29, 2013 ---

Yeah! I think it would be fun to have some sort of moveable "land". You could bring it up to enemy fortifications on water and use it as a temporary platform to assault them.

Building on top of it would be cool, but probably impractical as other's noted.

 

Thats evreything what i can say too.They would glitch around most the time , and LONGboats are long enough.You would need to make and sea map for the extra long longboat,and i think thats not needed.