Thief Class

This is an idea that I've been wanting to put on writing for a while. This is just for fun. Suggestions are welcome. No trolls please :)

The Thief (<3 <3)

Main Benefits:
1) Easiest class to gain money.
2) A real counter to the Knight.
3) Disables enemy shops
4) Steal enemy resources
5) Can get past doors.
6) Great at escapes

Cons:
1) Squishy
2) Only really effective when behind the enemy
3) Cannot pick up the flag despite being a person who steals

STANDARD ATTACK: (twice as fast as a Knight's jab)
Dagger swing (1/2 heart. Very fast attack speed).
Backstab (1 heart. A normal attack that deals extra damage if it hits an enemy's back. Steals 1% of enemy's total gold.)

PASSIVE ABILITIES

Last Laugh: Upon killing an enemy, the Thief gains 30% of the enemy's total amount of money post death. This is great for money farming.

Feather Foot: The Thief can walk on enemy trap doors.

Shadow Meld: If the Thief remains inactive for 4 seconds underground, he will cloak himself. This deactivates if the Thief performs any action.

Tunneler: The Thief can use enemy tunnels. Upon using one, the Thief cannot use active abilities for 3 seconds

ACTIVE ABILITIES

Devil's Deal: The thief left clicks at an enemy's shop, allowing him to purchase one item from the shop, free of cost. After "purchasing" the item, that item is removed from that specific shop's inventory permanently. Thief can only use this ability once per shop.

Lockpick: The thief is able to pass through doors. Unlocking a column of 2 doors takes 2 seconds for wood and 3 seconds for stone **This does not 'open' the door for other allies nor does it damage the door**

Viper's Strike (Charge Attack):
Hits enemy's back - 2 heart, Disables enemy Knight's sword for 3 seconds and his shield for 10 seconds. Slows enemies run speed by 20% (does not effect jump height or grappling hook). Destroys all but 3 of an Archer's arrows
Hits enemy's front - 1 heart

Falcon Dive (Ariel Charge Attack): At the height that any other class would take damage from, the Thief is able to prepare an arial dive that instantly kills a single enemy upon contact. If this attack misses, the Thief loses 1/2 heart.

ITEMS

Orb of Shadows (1-3 charges): Upon activation, the thief becomes one with the shadows for one second, allowing all units and weapons to pass through him. Thief cannot attack or hold items in this state. This does not allow the Thief to walk through walls. **When Orb of Shadow reaches 0 charges, it will break. The amount of charges on an orb is random unless the Thief has 3 kills in a row, in which case the Orb will always start with 3 charges.

Lock Change (2 charges): The thief right clicks an enemy door, starting a 5 second counter. At the end of the counter, the door switches over to your ally's side.

MOVEMENT

The Thief class has the highest movement speed and jump height.

Wall Grab: Can grab a wall that he is touching and hold himself there for 2 seconds. He cannot attack while holding on to a wall, nor can he use it as leverage to wall jump higher.

Feather Fall: Thief does not take fall damage.

There will be more to come soon!...

 

lets just humor him, it looks like he spent a lot of time typing that.

It seems like the kind of class that archer is being accused of. he can get around fast, he is agile, he can breach bases, ect ect.
but he wont have a very big effect on the game. his attack is short ranged, and isn't very powerful. he has no explosive stuf or anything.
so yeah...
virtually useless.

 

Make a mod for this! ^.^

 

One does not simply mod a new class.
especially me.

 

Thank you, Steve. Your advice is blunt, but at least you stated your opinion instead of being the bitter elder troll of the thread *cough cough auburn**

Perhaps he could have a sticky bomb which would at least give him some destructive power. I also see him as a more of a replacement for the archer except stronger against the knight, and still a large threat to the builder.

I do think it is rash to compare this unit's effectiveness to the archer. Quick farming gold and robbing units of their resources can be completely crippling to the enemy, while giving your builder tons of gold to make shops/catapults/etc.

You are also completely neglecting that a Thief could steal a keg/catapult/ w.e from an enemy shop and set it off right there. That could be as devastating as a griefer lighting a keg where your flag is. It will also teach builders to strategize where they put their shops.

Consider how much of a counter this unit is to the (arguably) overpowered knight. The Thief can jump over the Knight even at the Knight's highest point in a jump. This adds a completely different spin on how the Knight will have to adjust since this battle is not just about who timed the power attack first and charged forward.

@windwizard999 I was going to look into that. I only discovered today that they are making a new map editor and my imagination just spazzed out and I wrote this.

@Auburn , read the third sentence of my first post. I told you that this thread does not care for your elder forum troll wisdom. Go away.

 

Can't really take your suggestion seriously if you go around calling someone a troll for saying something that's true

This game is medieval based. Now I'm not saying that there weren't thieves back in the medieval times, but it's not relevant to this game. When you think of medieval times, I'm sure the first thing that comes to mind isn't a thief.

 

I can't tell if you're kidding or not. What @Auburn says is troll jibberjabber. This class has not been suggested before. Just because it shares a similar name with another suggested "Thief" does not make it the same. I'm holding you at a higher regard than the troll, so in order for me or anyone to believe that this class has not been made, i'm going to need quotes or references to specific posts.

No, when I think of medieval times, and especially in video games, I think of a Thief. And apparently Blizzard, Square Enix, and many other gaming companies agree with me.

Read the second sentence. This build is for fun. Go away.

 

No, they aren't lying. They are misinformed.

I've read that entire thread and I'd like to respond, but you haven't specified what comment or quote you are referring to, or what point you're trying to make at all. The thread has many ideas. Please specify.

Saying it's a fact that's true doesn't make it so. Please reread my later posts. I have already addressed your comment.

His low damage is made up by his fast speed and backstab. If a knight is disabled from everything for 3 seconds and the Thief is faster, he will die within that three seconds for sure. Again, I've said this already. I encourage you to read more carefully. You will save us both time. The idea of a sticky bomb was mentioned when this issue was brought up as well setting off items from someone else's shop. Of course, I've already addressed this.

I'm from the video game universe. Haven't you heard? Anything is possible in the video game universe.

Wrong. See Leon from Awesomenauts.

 

I put time into this first post and I believe it is detailed enough to warrant its own topic.

 

The glaring problem I see with this class is the health to damage ratio.

That's the equivalent to running up to an archer as a knight and being shot in the face, you are only damaged by one heart. You still have three hearts left and can just jab the archer twice and he's dead. If your thief class is "squishy" (like an archer), the knight would just turn around and stab you to death after you did (at most) one heart worth of damage.

 

A Thief class will not happen, especially with the abilities you have in mind, such as removing shop items permanently. It would make them an annoyance that everyone hates. I see no place for a thief class in this game, anyway; the three classes have a delicate enough balance right now, and that need not be disturbed with another addition.

Also, Archer used to have daggers with a backstab, and those daggers were removed - for good reason. The fast-paced action of KAG and the minimal stealth that occurs in game made them practically useless, unless you hopped around on top of your enemy and spammed it to try and get a backstab, which was stupid and unfun for everyone.

If you want this to be in KAG, mod it into your own server. Otherwise, the likelihood of it becoming a thing is essentially nil.

 

I have explained this in my reply to Steve Jobs. Please reread my posts.

I whole heartily disagree with this. Good Knights kill on the first engage. The Thief relies on never being hit. In return he is faster in every way to the Knight. A Thief's first attack, if it's on the back will disarm the knight for 1 heart and he will be unable to fight or defend for 3 seconds let alone use his shield (10 seconds). It would almost be enough to make a knight retreat, even if he killed you. Now that I think of it though, the thief's base damage probably should be raised slightly. The Thief can attack twice as fast as a knight's single jab.

@GuitarSt08 Thanks, I buffed his damage

You misunderstood the ability. The removal of the item is only specific to that instance of the shop.

This is a good point. Perhaps the Thief should have the ability to cloak then. Leon from Awesomenauts does it and he's one of the game's favorite characters. I would then need to renerf the damage of his attacks, otherwise he would kill on the first hit with stealth. This tactic could force him to attack and retreat, repeat. This will only work if Thief is the fastest class in the game, which he is.

This is just for fun. I have no expectations of this going anywhere past theory, unless I decide to mod.