Knight Destruction Of Backwalls

That is a reason Kouji for why stalemates occur. I guess more of my arguments are geared towards CTF because it is really where I play the most and statlemates occur more often in it. Yes, you do have an unlimited amount of coins, but it isn't like the generate over time as you know. Because to get kegs it costs 120 coins, which you must gather in one life, while also keeping that safe across the entire field, whereas in TTH the distances from base to base are shorter.

Though, now that I think about it, having the ability to destroy wood backwall as knight in TTH would impact the game more since bases are typically made high up and wood backwalled to maintain all of the factories. But even then, in CTF the bases are not "pre-built", as in that you are having to contain a flag, you don't already have a base with some minor walls.

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Yes Luigi, bombs do damage to backwalls already, but it it really worth wasting 4 bombs to take out 4 stone backwalls (if perfectly placed) or with wood wasting 1 (if perfectly placed). Think of the times where you need to throw a bomb at a wall in the air. If you miss, theres 1 bomb less.

 

I think that stalemates occurring so often is a symptom of a larger problem. The problem I am referring to is that as one team starts to lose, they turtle up in what's left of their base(s) out of necessity, so that they don't lose, allocating only a few brave souls to try to eke out some offense while they try not to lose their last hall/flag. So, even if a team was winning handily before, now they are faced with a tough nut to crack to get that last flag/hall.

Of course, jacking up the destructive power of the class most likely to be all over the front of enemy forts would reduce the likelihood of stalemates, but it would do so in a way that further upsets balance, in my opinion. Structures are just so hopelessly doomed already, I generally balk at any suggestion to further facilitate their rapid demolition.

I think that breaking stalemates ought not be left in the hands of knights alone, as they are already brimming with capabilities in excess. Also, as mentioned in previous posts, they already have multiple item-based means of breaking all walls, back walls included. I can see a knight hacking his way through a wooden door with his sword, but that weapon really is ill-suited to damaging structures, as it should be.

I know this isn't the most on-topic suggestion in the world, but it is meant to address the above contention that stalemates could be solved via this back wall idea. The stalemate problem really came to the forefront when the penalty for suicidal behavior was removed. Of course, I'm referring to tickets. Now, I am not saying that tickets are the only possible way for dying to matter. I am, however, saying that stalemates exist because each team essentially has an infinite number of troops, and only the condition of the defensive structures has any bearing on who is gaining or losing ground, since overall kills and deaths have no direct bearing on who is winning the match.

So, if one team is pinned into their last defensive structure, then they are really hard to beat, because all or nearly all of their attention is focused on defense, and they are very near their spawn point, so an endless stream of defenders is always at the ready. If eliminating stalemates is your goal, allowing one team to eventually kill off the opposing army is the best way that I can see to achieve that.

EDIT:
For those of you who are unaware, tickets are a former mechanic in KAG, in which each team had a pool of them; they were essentially team lives. If your team runs out, guys stop respawning, usually leading to the team's rapid demise.

 

I think only enemy wood!

 

Buildings would be collapsing out the wazoo if this were the case.

 

Trampoline cannons solve this problem, if your team knows how to build them and your knights know how to use them

You move just as fast out of a cannon with a keg as you would without :^)

 

Not everyone has the coding experience and ability to set up their own server. I would really like to test this out on my own server, but servers cost money. Aswell as having someone create the mod for use, the bills just keep stacking up and up.

And then not everyone is so good that they can throw a bomb and hit any location they want, let alone a mid-air target. Most players don't even know they can aim a bomb throw. The average player is no where close to the level of skill vets have.

 

Good thread very constructive and informative.

 

Exactly! KAG is balanced best when it's made to appeal to hardcores by having small niche mechanics that take a lot of time to master. It allows vets to pull off awesome things that make newbies jealous and thus incentivizes them to learn how to play better - to get up to that level.

Edit: Personally, I'd love to see Tickets return. We have so many more options for reducing stalemates now, surely having tickets as an alternative setting for some servers (Ie: An "option" for vanilla servers that doesn't flag them as modded) would not destroy the balanceof the game. You can even set them ridiculously high, to like 1,000 or something and then tickets become a worry only after a game has grinded past the three to five hour mark anyway, at the point when the match has just become a battle of tenacity.