Ticket CTF and TTH

Yes there was a thread that proposed the idea of creating a hybrid between Classic and Current, but not one specifically about creating a seperate, CTF and TTH Ticket Gamemode, where everything is the same, except the ticket system is re-implemented.

A lot of players loved and hated the way the ticket system would work. It would of course lead to less stalemates in Classic, but people would turtle in their base. Though, for every annoying end game turtle-off, there would be a time where an epic last stand would occur, where players would hold off into their base till the very end and clutch it for their team. It was always an incredible sight to see.

Though, with the current build, the turtleing that would occur in Classic really can't happen and heres why.

In TTH once a team runs out of lives the other team gets to keep all of their bases and all of the workshops that come with them. It is only a matter of time until enough kegs, ballistas, catapults, and bomb just blow the last base and its inhabitants to smithereens! YEEEEE HAWWWW! Excuse me for that outburst.

In CTF, it will be the same as with TTH, except yes, since there are less explosives and sieges able to be used, the games would take a bit longer, except that in Current, buildings are not as tall and large as they were in Classic. If you remember the large skyscrapers and spike pits that were 30 or so blocks long that were in Classic, you would know that those could no longer be possible to build in Current.

As for how easy it would be to implement these gamemodes, well, I would assume it would be pretty damn easy. This is also a suggestion that doesn't make one class more op than the other or completely change how the current game is played. Mainly because these will be SEPARATE GAME MODES! No harm can come from adding new features that are seperate from the base game. If you don't like playing it with tickets, you just don't play it. Meanwhile, all of the players who loved it from Classic get to play these awesome gamemodes. CTF being brought back and TTH getting a new revamp.

So what do you all think?

 

Looks fun- I never actually played with tickets (I'm a "steam noob") so I would love to play these gamemodes.

 

I will totally host such a thing. I am in favor of testing new ideas, as I am on the camp that believes that everything is not perfect, but with some degree of tweaking, can be made great without overhauling everything. Again, the problem of modded servers getting lower traffic may rear its head, but I think there is not much more that can be done about that than already has.

I am not sure that going back to straight tickets is the way to go, but I am willing to try it. I think that a good implementation could be to put the team tickets as an integer value in autoconfig.cfg. If the value is set to some positive integer, like 30, each team would get 30 tickets/respawns. If the value is set to 0, there are 0 respawns allowed, and if set to -1, tickets are disabled and there are infinite respawns, like now. This way, it would not necessarily need to be a whole other game mode in order to make tickets work.

 

Simple idea that could be implanted, but its up server owners like blueluigi said. From previous experience, many KAG players aren't amazing and will end up wasting your team's ticket, then the game goes on forever between a few people too wimpy to finish the game. Although this might not be the case in KAG now since the game is more fast paced.

Why is the poll vote visible to the public? I don't see how that will benefit this thread.

 

1. If people could see modded and regular servers by default this would give modded servers more visibility.
2. If modded, default, and Official servers had different colors for their titles to distinguish them, this would also make modded servers stand out more.

These two things would help tremendously.

 

Idk. Didn't exactly know what it meant and wanted to see. Not a big deal IMO.

What would be a good idea is if we recorded some test games. Ones that are simulated to see the average number of deaths each team will use before the game ends/gets boring.

We could even use the results from the current community tournament. The ratio of knights to archers to builders in any regular game is likely close to 3:1:1 which is the current set up of the tournament if I am not mistaken. Because there are 5 players on each team, 10 players total, we can use it as a base test.

Take the average deaths of each team, set the ticket limit to a small amount above that, and then modify this amount according to the max number of players on each server.

So if the average number of deaths per a 5 player team, 10 players total, was say, 100, a 10 player team, 20 players total game would have its tickets set to 200.

Thoughts?

 

It is harder to camp yes and righfully so, but the part about builders being inefficient money farmers is gibberish. Construct a saw farm and then spam endless wood platforms or workshops, you'll earn 1000s of coins in no time lol.

 

I had a "Tickets CTF" running for days and nobody ever joined. Modded servers should be visible by default.

 

For the TTH, how about putting the tickets you gain from capturing a base on a timer. After a team hold a base for 5 minutes after the initial capture, you can re capture and get additional tickets.

 

The clan I'm in is interested in hosting a ticket mod server. We're currently looking to get the mod from someone. If you can help please message me.

 

Well I know @BlueLuigi briefly hosted a ticket server. You could ask him, if he doesn't mind.

 

BlueLuigi doesn't really use the forums anymore.

I "worked" with him on the idea of implementing this. He created a fully working mod for a server in about 2 hours. When we talked I think I remembered him saying he used some of the old stuff from Classic and just kinda imported it over with some changes.

Hope that helps at all.

 

Thanks man, I sent BlueLuigi and Leo a message about the mod they used. Hopefully one of them can share otherwise we might have to attempt making it ourselves.