Shark-Mower

My favorite and most comedic aspect of KAG is the fact that you can pick up sharks and run around the map with them. It is such a great part of KAG, but why not make it greater?

Whenever you pick up a shark and run around with it, its jaws are constantly chomping at the air. However, they do no damage to others when being held, but take damage from both enemy and team players. I would like to see that changed.

I propose that when a shark is held, the bites should do damage in the area in front of it (of course only to enemies). The bites would do 1 heart of damage each (same as a jab) so that is doesn't become too overpowered. The only thing different between the shark and a jab would be the distance in front of you it could reach and the fact that it constantly would be attacking.

Plus, since the number of sharks on a map is limited to the number of sharks that initially spawn, this idea wouldn't be able to be spammed. Once all the sharks are gone, they are gone for good.

Thoughts and ideas?

 

If you shield it still blocks. Attacks could be disabled while holding it. Not many people know how to pick up sharks. There are barely any sharks on maps, 2 is the usual, and around 6 is the maximum. They don't respawn, so supply of them is limited.

 

This would be absolutely horrible. Basically having a jabspam with double the normal range on top of your regular attacks? Sharks are fine the way they currently are.

 

All you would have to do is constantly break their guard with slashes, and the shark would do all the work for you. There's no way this could be balanced.

 

Shark spawns on a map are symmetrical, therefore, it is balanced.

You wouldn't be able to jab or slash with a shark because if this were to be added, the shark would become a physical object, whereas now you can walk through a shark when someone is holding it. Also, standing on a shark's back wouldn't do damage, so simply jumping over the shark and slashing the person holding it would be easy.

And the .gif is the closest I could find to the shark .gif I originally wanted. I didn't have enough time to find the one I wanted so... YOLO.

Also, need I remind you that just because something is OP doesn't mean that it is a bad thing. As long as both teams have equal access to it and people have fun using it, everything is A OK.

This idea would cause major damage once a game. Once your team's shark is gone, it is gone for good. It doesn't last long either. Sharks die quick.

 

Sharks don't die quick though, they heal when they kill players/fishies. You could just.. feed your shark a dead person or something and it'd be k.

I wish i could downvote lol. This is a bad suggestion.

 

I do understand what OP means. OP means Over Powered.

If it means anything other than that please let me know, since the only other time I have seen OP used is when it stands for Original Poster.

When sharks spawn they are symmetrical to all the other sharks on the map. They do move as soon as they spawn though, but not far enough for a team to capture the other's shark(s).

As for all of your other complaints, they all could be easily fixed with small changes.

Keeping sharks from regenerating health after being picked up would fix your problem. It also fixes the wasting of ammo taking the sharks out. You could even decrease a shark's base HP.

Also, there is something already in the game similar to my idea.

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If you think that Sharks shouldn't be able to be controlled then why not get rid of the ability to ride bison? Bison currently are more powerful than sharks, are much more of a hassle to jump over, can be rode, can jump over structures, have more health, and can regenerate health if fed. All you have to do is feed them. It is everything you hate about my idea + more, yet you have never once complained about it.

So to sum up all of the things that could be implemented to fix your concerns:

No regeneration (from over time or being fed)
Decreased health
No attacking while holding a shark (since attacking while holding a keg and chicken is already not suppose to be in the game)
Make the shark a physical object so players can jump onto them and attack the user
The shark can no longer do damage unless hit directly by its bite
The shark's bite does 1 heart of damage
And decrease the run speed while holding a shark (down to keg speed)

These are all really easy changes. It isn't adding or removing anything from the game, it simply is changing the properties of something.

 

Sometimes more over-the-top things doesn't make a better game. At least there's generally only 1 bison per map, and very few have them at all.

You also completely vulnerable while riding a bison. You can't shield. Just takes someone who knows how to jump or aim to end your stampede. That said, tamed bison are pre' ridiculous.

 

Oh, but you know bison can run twice as fast as any class in the game right?

and typically there are only 2 sharks on any map and less than half of the maps have them at all.

 

If the devs have to go out of their way just to make this change, it probably isn't worth doing. Maybe funny the first time, but after it will just be BS. Also, plebs don't know that sharks can't hurt you when held, so they will run anyway.

 

With this logic the game would never have been made. Man, making this game is so hard, fuck it, no game for anyone. Too much work.

And even then, changing the properties of a single object is a lot easier than previous updates like the immobilization of vehicles and water falls. Sure they have to go out of their way to do them, but they still go put in didn't they.

And do you even know what a pleb is? But even if these were indeed literal plebs playing the game, common sense kicks in. If my team is holding it, I didn't get hurt, if their team is holding it, I do get hurt. Takes maybe 30 seconds to figure it out.

 

Yes they are a lot of changes, but small changes at that. Look at all of the suggestions I have made and compare them to other ones. "New dirt blocks reaction to explosion" makes dirt move when an explosive goes off. "End Game Bonuses". "Lava". "Limb Loss/Armor Destruction"

Those are all major changes to the game that would require hours of work, starting from essentially scratch to make. That is from page 1.

Among the suggestions I have made on page 1, there is "THH Factory Suggestion" which is about something MM posted about in the 2nd suggestion thread made. "Pivot/Rotation System" something another player brought up in a previous thread that I found interesting. "Thread about Lanterns" a thread about giving lanterns new attributes. And "Spike Properties", a thread about being able to change if a spike extends and retracts on stone surfaces.

All of these are more reasonable than any of ones I listed above. Most are easier to implement than everything I listed above. And this thread is more reasonable and easier to implement than anything I listed above.

Sure I make a lot of suggestions, but they are backed by reason, logic, and experience, whether that be from me playing the game, looking through and finding other's suggestions, or looking through old updates and finding what is in the game to add to. Look through the list of idiotic ideas that have been suggested in the past and compare them to mine, then come back.

If this is a place for

then why care what I say. Why state your opinion if it isn't going to matter either way since it is just going to die? Infact, why even have this section? And how can this be a place for threads to go and die, while it also be a place for people who care about it to read through?

All in all, I make suggestions because it is an idea that pops into my head. If it is something that is within reason, doesn't severely fuck up the game, and I can find enough evidence to make a case for it, I post it. I mean, how much harm can a suggestion do? Infact, anytime someone posts in a suggestion thread or creates one, it is because they like the game and want to help out in some minor way. Even if what they suggest never gets put in the game, every thread and every post shows support from the community.

And sure I defend my argument to the end, even if a majority of people disagree, but that is because you don't half ass something, you put all you can into it. A lawyer doesn't just quit and let the person he is defending lose, he keeps fighting till the end.

Btw, heres the full list:

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Customization:
Hats
Costumes
Costumes (locked)
Costumes (locked)
Upgrades
Upgrades (Locked)
Experience
In-game Head-Editor (Locked)
Recoloring of team-colors for customization
Classes/Items:
More Classes
Grappling Hooks
Grappling hooks for knights & builders
Sledge Hammer
Loss of Resources after Death
Logs as Weapons
Eye-candy flags
Wizard Class
Wizard Class (locked)
Mortar (Locked)
Classes too independent and too fast
Class Upgrader
Remove Water Ammo
Throwing Spears for Knights
Boiling Water in Buckets
Hand Cannon / Grenade Launcher
Archer Melee Weapon (Locked)
Team-wide Resource Sharing/Inventory
Fireworks
Harpoons
Depth Charges
Diving Bells
Heart Arrows
Not able to attack while carrying crates // increase size of crates
Wooden Catapult Ammo
Deadlier Arrows
Make Bombs be more visible
Buff Bomb Arrows
Ladder Arrows
Sticky Bombs
"Grappling hook"-ammo for ballistas
Archer only - Glider
Spike/Shrapnel Mines
Doors and Chests with Keys
Poison
Pitch/Oil
Archer Caltrops
Animation for Grappling Hook
Remove Walljump for Knights (Equipment too heavy?)
Gold from Gold Bullions should return when destroying them
Mines should be able to take more damage from physics (== longer fall without being destroyed)
Lantern Spam - How to Fix/Prevent it
Tweaks:
Farming
Farming (Locked)
More Siege
More Siege (Locked)
More Siege (Locked)
Slower Moving Siege
Grappling while Charging Arrows
Better Door Sprites
Spawn Camping in TDM
Airships
Sonic style bubbles
Nights too dark
Submarines
Axe when chopping wood/trees
Kill Streaks
Respawn-timer Tweaks
Not losing Resources/Items when swapping Classes at Tent
Tanks
Tweak carried Corpses
Animals/Terrain:
Farming / Animals
Mats From Animals
More hostile Animals and plants
Biomes
Truly Dynamic Water
Getting Seeds
Getting Seeds (locked)
Taming Bison
Weather
Weather (Locked)
Grass growing back
Block Variations
Dragons
Sea Battle Map
Tall Grass
Lava
Boats:
Custom Boats
Super Boat
Boats Always face Enemy
Lock Boats
Dinghy Damage
Pirate Ship
Tech Trees and Buildings:
Upgrade Factories
Storage
Buy Migrants
Pay for Additional Tech
Tech Tiers Instead of Tech Tree
Conveyor Belts and Lifts
Turn Spikes
Stone Ladders & Stone Platforms
Tech Tree Changes (to include cannons, rifles) (Locked)
Workshops only usable by team that built them
Multi Direction Doors
Resource producing Factories
Sponge "evolving" into Block
Remove Ladders & Trapblocks - Replace with Classic Drawbridges
Game Balancing:
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Offense/Defense Balancing
Nerf Archers
Nerf Archers (Locked)
Archer Stomp
Knights Break Wood and Dirt
Sky Bridges
Support System
Stamina
Stun Reduction
Archer's Abilities old/new
Slash Cooldown
Nerf Boulders
Nerf Knights
Slashing should be slower
Nerf Stone Doors - Buff Stone Blocks
Building Things is too fast
Put speed limit on shield glide
Remove Double Slash
Nerf Kegs
Hitbox tweaks
Game Mechanic Tweaks:
Clashing/Parrying
Upgrading BackWall
Upgrading Doors
Saws
Auto Balance
Coins
Remove Swimming
Gain Resources from Buildings
Fighting While Holding Kegs
Falling Trees
Pickup priorities
Higher Arrow Production
No Shield in Water; Doors for Boats
Scroll of Carnage Tweak
Faster Shield Gliding
Jab and Slash Cancel
Reviving of Players
Kill Count increasing for Kills with Spikes
Arrows slowly damaging Wooden Blocks
Automated Building/Building Layouts
Being able to gather Arrows from Trees again
Vehicles can be carried by 2 Players
Some Factories shouldn't need Migrants
More Ammo for Siege Equipment/Weapons
Shotgun-like Archer Charge
Knights launched by Catapult should damage Stone/Wooden Blocks by Shielding
Arrows to get deflected if shot too weak
Mines and Kegs should fit their purpose more
Boats to be lit up by Fire Arrows
Slash canceling when getting shot
Only builder in buildtime
Thrown Lanterns set Stuff on Fire
Kegs shouldn't explode from being shot or slashed at
Different swimming styles for each class
Not able to spawn on Warboat if being captured
A way to lock length of grappling hook
Hot air makes Knight fly upwards
Only Builders can carry Drills in their Inventory
Fix Arrow Ballistics/Physics
Archer truly hiding
Dirt Blocks Reaction to Explosions
Spawn System Tweaks
Knights should be able to damage Backwalls
Limb Loss / Armor Destruction
Spike Properties
Being able to repair Blocks
Thrown Corpses should stun
Sharks dealing one Heart of Damage and have a decreased Angle of Attack
TTH Factories Upgrades
Pivot/Rotation System for Catapults & Ballistas
End Game Bonuses
Game Interface Tweaks:
View Team Classes
More Options For Keys
Key Rebinding
Language Display
More Graphics Options
Player Queue
Friends List/Marking of Players
Remove Kicking
Assists
Spectator Changes
Rcon messages to have more contrast to normal join/leave Messages etc.
Vote values need a change
Door Logic
Kill Cam Suggestions
Killfeed UI Changes
Scaleable UI
Game Modes:
Offline Lan
Single Player Saving
Campaign Mode
Zombie Fortress
Classic KAG in Beta
Conquest Game Mode
Dota/MOBA Style Game Mode
Plague War
Kill the Princess (1 "Flag" CTF)
1 Flag CTF
Adventure Mode
Flagship Mode
King Arthur's Balls
King Arthur's Last Stand
Rambomatch
Tower of Babel
Assassin
Attack/defend place XY style mode
Hunger Games
Tower Race
Ticket CTF/TTH
Hardcore/Realism Mode
Other:
Achievements
Lobby/Warm Up Time
Server Commands Via SSH
Remove Non-Admin Kicking
Hosting Servers in the Game
Pingkick/Pingban Message Tweaks
Special Date Events
More Statistics/Analytics
Vote Spam
Taunts from Classic
Being able to toggle Full Screen/Windowed ingame through Shortcut/Hotkey
Remove Barrier Bouncing
Maps shouldn't flag servers as modded
Dedicated coaches and training servers
Tweaks for moderating/administrating ingame
Autokick AFK players
Expose more variables to server config files
Control implementations
Public blacklist
Voice communication
Built in Recording Tool
Quick Admin/Moderation Tools
Vote Kick Improvement
Lower Slot Count on official CTF Servers
Running Game with Help Option should list Parameters
Main Menu should have more Buttons
Redirecting to Server Browser instead of Main Menu when trying to join Full Server

 

Lol even if you couldn't attack, you could just shield bash people over and over while the shark noms their face.

Also, when did this thread become a compilation of terrible Duplolas suggestions?

 

@Auburn

So once keg slashing and jabbing is fixed on its own, because it eventually will whether or not this idea is put in, the only thing left to do is make the object you are holding a physical object. In comparison to all the other ideas suggested, how hard do you really think it is to make an object you are holding physical?

If there is something already in the game that is similar to something, in this case bison riding to shark attacks, logically it can be suggested to give the same features, or close to them, to the similar feature.

It is reasonable because it requires little effort when compared to previous suggestions and other things that have been already implemented in the game.

@Trumbles

Just stop. If you knew how to read, you would know that with the suggestion I have made, you can't shield. The only thing you are doing is posting half-assed posts that are semi on topic so you can shit post in the next line.

 

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A pleb is short for plebian, which was a term for a commoner in Roman times. Anyway, say you were a player relatively new to the game. You know that sharks can hurt you. You see a player holding a shark, so you naturally want to stay away from them (and not die). Also, you see them attacking other players and killing them (really using slash, but you can't tell) but you can't see the sword, and so you think the shark can hurt you.