Build 200 released!

Awsome.Thank you for the great and fast updates:D.Can't wait for zombies.

 

Awesome work guys!

Can't wait for zombie... Thinking might make another server when zombies come out!

Going to.be awesome!

 

Shweet! You sir, are amazing!

 

New combat is weird. Can't make a real comment yet but the new jab system feels very strange and with the clashing and the different hit detection it feels more random.

Also it seems like you arbitrarily are not allowed to throw bombs downwards- humongous nerf to bomb jumping.

Customization is great ofc.

edit: no jab stun also makes it hard to stop people trying to bomb you at close range and nealy impossible to kill more than one guy alone as they can just out dps you.

shield bashing seems even more random and inconsistent than before

friction and colliding with walls seems a little borked as well. Say I'll get knocked back and I'll hit a wall and stay there for a second but then slide super far a second later.

i see what you're going for with the jumping changes but it feels a lot less tight than before

the changes to jab hit detection means that you can't escape from a fight.

why was combat changed? Was this clashing stuff even in test?

 

One word...ZOMBIES!

 

Hmm sad I didnt get to test stuff with you all this time :( Off to test on live I guess!

 

Jabs were changed because people don't like stunlocking. No idea why clashing was put in but it seems to be because you can just stab each other to death and the one with most hearts always wins, that old problem again.

Shield bashing... I wish this would get a separate fix. Wish we could also throw bombs on the floor by our feet again, no reason to take that out at all.

Either way, I like most stuff but as usual my pc likes to lag kag the f*** up so it's unplayable for me anyway.

 

I want my $10 back.

 

Ah c'mon guys...! Just enjoy this wonderful game =)

 

I know what findudes complaint of charging is. Basically, make it so when your charge bar goes yellow, it always means a slash. Sometimes it goes yellow and you let go really fast, but it does nothing, apparently you were supposed to wait like a few milliseconds more. I dunno whether it's due to lag or what but having precise charge time is very important to actually hitting anyone. So basically, when it goes yellow, you should get the slash 100%. No idea if thats possible due to lag though.

Shield bashing is completely random, that's what most people think anyway. Whether you actually hit anyone back with it is like flipping a coin. I'd say:

If two people shield bash at the same time, both go flying back in opposite directions.

Normal shield bash should 100% stun and knock back someone, whether they're charging jabbing or whatever.

If you successfully shield bash, you should be very briefly stunned and knocked slightly back to compensate, but you should be able to regain control very quickly. This makes the shield bash effective at knocking people off cliffs, separating clumps of enemies and knocking someone back to prepare for charge or retreat. It does not help in small corridors, as you'll be stunned as well.

I'm in the process of getting a clean install of windows 7 and not running it on bloody not genuine version.

 

I enjoy my new-found heads. (that sounds kinda bad...)

 

how to lie down on a bridge without falling down now?

 

Yeah when I first realized that bombs were aimed with the mouse it blew my mind. I think it was when Neat posted his tutorial video that I learned it. To be fair I played archer almost exclusively but still that's something that should be evident immediately. I think us oldfags take that for granted.

Clashing and charge dropping and soft jabs feel weird for me at about 200 ping. Remembering when hitstun was first implemented on the knight's sole attack way back when? Felt good man, felt real good. Jab stunlock was the worst it ever was back then, but it was way better as it actually felt like something way happening. Now you kind of get lost in combat more and it sometimes feels like "what the fuck why am i dying what is happening oh god", even to me who has read the changelog and has a reasonable amount of experience. Why was jab stun taken out? To stop stun locking? Now that was only a problem at ridiculous ping differences. The new issues are present even at lower pings.

I don't like the jumping or bomb changes direction changes. Seems like the changes cater to noobs at the expense of what experienced players can do. It does take a bit of experience to control it but being able to jump at the exact height you want was very useful at times. It does make your character feel heavier, but it also makes it feel like your jump key might be a bit sticky.

Shield bashing is really random. I don't know what else to say as it doesn't act in a predictable enough way to make any other comments on it. Speaking in terms of the previous build's shield bashing, that would be greatly improved by making bashing use the same lag compensation as jabbing and making the bash distance more normalized between different circumstances. A visual cue + unique sound would help a lot as well.

edit: but I think it needs to retain usefulness in tunnels

On the plus side bomb throwing is feeling better now and bomb jumping is more reasonable. The distance you could bombjump was pretty ridiculous, and I am beginning to catch a whiff of possible exploits that could launch you even farther. If you slashed in midair during a bombjump it was possible to kill yourself at full health just by hitting wall.

Also the pumpkin head no longer looks like a butt. Good job on that.

 

Contrary, stunlocking has been an issue on good pings, for example when you get slammed into a wall by a stun and then bounce right back into the enemies jab, which stuns you again, and so on till you're dead. You don't need ridiculous lag to pull that off. The bouncing thing was what caused that, if we just stopped at a wall from minimal momentum rather than bounced off it back into the enemy, that might help too.

 

Awesome, Hopefully the new knight system will favor the more defensive people