BUILD 1215 - Rebalance and Fix Central

I am shocked seeing this Update! The fixes have come too late, and I do not understand why they haven't come earlier.

The nerf to climb the walls with the shield, and the slash spam had to be fixed before they got known! Not after they have been used for the past 3 months!

This update will make old players (rage)quit the game!

I do not feel it is a smart decission! I know this is the testing phase, but I also know you do not defer the glitch shield against the walls although it was easily countered!

If you want my advice you should not always listen to the new players, who will not stay more than a week, but to the older players who have been here for several years.

I want to remind you that back at the time the "bomb jump" was a glitch, this glitch was so appreciated that you decided to keep it.

Why not the shield glitch?

But the worst thing about this update is the speed of jabbing. New players in KAG have become way stronger as the experienced players now, because they jab spam. This is nonsense!

Winning a duel by jab spamming 1 vs 1?! Nonsense!

Is it normal to you that all the best knights quit this game cause of this update?

Some of the things you've changed have existed for months!

You've already done the alpha and every update 2/3 of the players ragequit.

Do you remember the number of people that played when KAG was just out? On alpha?

Why do you think there always came fewer and fewer people?

Excuse my rage but I'm really disappointed in this update

best regards
Snake

 

Jab spam is a thing again? I'm so jabbing all of your eyes out this weekend!

 

I couldn't agree more, @Snake19

I quit.

 

1) then it must be the old who could not properly use the glitch

2) The glitch shield can easily be blocked by making 3 blocks extra on a tower. I do not see how it interferes with the gameplay by how easily it is countered.

3) if you want a list of a few players who are leaving or planning to leave:

Fuzzle, Cuci, Lumeos, Damocle, Me

(these are people I often rubs shoulders, but I am sure there are many more!)

and I might not name any individuals in the alpha because there are lot like "Afterlife & Hunk"

Since these members are very good friends with many other KAG players, a lot of them will follow their example and leave as well to find a new game, which will result in major loss of experienced and loyal players.

Best Regards
Snake

 

I don't know if I like this build or not... there are some good changes but some I don't like, mainly the knight ones.

 

Sorry for the wall of text here but...

I'm going to have to disagree with you guys here. Playing as a knight was never "rushing in and recklessly using slash" and every skilled knight here would agree with me. Why? Because a skilled knight isn't going to just jump in and start slashing away. A skilled knight is going to stand back,wait and think when the best time to strike is to go and strike and then go in for the kill. The knights that just rush in are the ones that are going to die most frequently. (And that's something every knight should know)


I've played the new build and this is what I've observed:

People are complaining that knights can just hop right in front of you and start spam slashing you. I believe the problem is not the knight mechanic but the player himself who's being attacked. As a knight you should be constantnly thinking of ways to give yourself an advantage over enemy players. If an enemy knight is able to get you in a position where he's able to start slashing away at your shield, that is nobody else's fault but your own. As a knight, you should have been thinking of ways to prevent that from happening and if an enemy knight is able to put you in that position, he deserves that kill. Getting spam slashed doesn't even mean you have a 100% chance of dying. There are multiple ways to get yourself out of that position and every skilled knight here will agree with me saying that. One way is by using your shield effectively thus giving you some time to distance yourself. It's the un-skilled knights who don't know how to use their shield effectively that end up losing slash battles. Another way to get out of a slash battle would be to jab. Right after a knight slashes you and you block with your shield, there is a small opportunity for you to jab then quickly and shield again unscathed. If you were able to do this really well, then you could actually kill the knight that is attacking you. This was this case in the previous build.

This is the problem with the new jab stuns. If I'm obviously at the advantage and I'm taking down an enemy slashing to get the kill and he's just able to just jab stun me multiple times at once killing me, it's really frustrating because it's obvious that I should have gotten the kill. That knight put himself in a vulnerable position. I saw that and took advantage of it by going in for the kill yet he still survives and kills me because with the new jab mechanics all you have to do is shield whoever is attacking you and then gang bang them with jabs.

Jabs should not be an effective way of killing people. Jabs should be a quick maneuver used to deal a small amount of damage and finish off enemies.

/rant

 

*I have not tested this build yet*
If jab spamming becomes a problem why don't you make jabs do half a heart. This still allows for unique combat but it's not as rewarding for the inexperienced player that jab spams.

 

I have thoughts on virtually every addition in this build, so here are my thoughts before actually playing the build.

The vast majority of the changes made me a happier person :)

 

@Rayne are you even playing the game?

 

Omg does hovering your mouse over it bring up a box saying "Kouji is watching you pee"?

 

Spoiler

@Geti, just a heads up, some of the long descriptions that extend to two lines are slightly outside their boxes.

 

@Geti is there anyway of getting a list of script files you updated? I've modified a lot of stuff for Belt Wars and I'd like stuff like my customized knightlogic to reflect the new game changes as well.

 

I don't see what is all the fuss about. The game was about slashing all the time, jumping and rushing down everyone. People raged when I killed them with a jab.
Finally you have to play smartly and time your slash and jab (jab was hardly used before, while it's a life saver move sometimes). The movement nerfs are also great, you can't just ignore towers with knight anymore but have to make a plan and work together, actually fighting the structure the enemy built for you.
I tried the update, tested everything new and in my opinion the game became much better. This update was necessary, if you cry and don't like it then leave, real players see the point and are happy for it.