Nerf / Remove Boulders

Velocity nerf sounds reasonable, boulders should only be weaponized when dropped from a high place, or flung by catapult.

 

1. Yea, apparently it did, so I guess memory failed me. I can edit that out or something.
2. I imagine this is the logic that they used to do the door-break? Since the farther out your mouse is, the more damage it does, with no realism behind it?
3. Again, insta-gib is overpowered and unrealistic.
4. At least those other traps had uses. You put dirt spikes to kill people as they jump, so they are effective at points where players will try to jump and fail, falling into the dirt. With the boulder trap, there is no smart alternative.

 

Darg just maide because he got rekt by Deno

 

Well, yea, but it also brought me to the thought of it being pretty useless. I mean, even in catapaults, it just hits a certain couple of tiles instead a spread-out one. That just leaves the peculiarly overpowered boulder-toss (no longer Boulder-drop) and traps. Personally, instead of trying to fix that whole ordeal, we can just toss the boulders (oh puns) and leave them decrepit and dead.

 

Boulder catapults are several times more effective than normal stone volleys, and excellent for collapsing because it has such good penetration/also destroys backwall.

Try it out.

 

Man, this thread, full of me getting rekt by knowledge.
Might just request it be closed down soon, but not yet.

 

damn you said it first, anyway

agree with @Trumbles boulder catapults are mega effective vs almost any building, except ones with platform protection, the boulder will only destroy the platform and stop there, or maybe not even destroying it, about the speed nerf, maybe it has to be done, boulder speed + archer grappling + moving skillz + boulder itself = GG.

EDIT: I tested the boulder vs platform and this happened:
i built 1 layer of stone and one of platform
S = stone, P = platform

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i did several tries, in the first one, the boulder went throught the platform barely damaging it and breaking stone. in the second one, same happened but the stone didnt break, the boulder just went throught both blocks. and the third one, it happened what i said before, it broke the platform and it stopped there.

 

This. So tired of "guess-what-item-I-have-in-backpack-and-how-many-hearts-I-have" Arthur's Gold.

 

I say leave them how they are not many people use them (except for Ripleycat ^_<).

 

List of why to keep boulders!

1. Combined with catapult do mass damage,
2. Good for killing other players as a builder when you WERE defenseless
3. Traps! Not only the trap blocks + boulder but a builder in a dark tunnel.
4. They add a fun aspect to the game you can glide down in a chicken and then whip out your boulder and curb stomp that poor fool.

List of why to remove boulders!

1. Because they are op?
2. Dont make sense.

List of why the reason to remove boulders are non sense!

1. If a builder with a rock can take you out learn to dodge or pick up the rock mid air.
2. If boulders dont make sense then how do bombs make sense? You put a bomb under your ass and you fly. Another example of "dont make sense is how does a knight full of heavy metal armour swim without drowning and is still able to lift a heavy sword in water. Last example of non sense is how does a knight glide with a metal shield??

Also next time can the vote be less bias which ever option I vote is making boulders sound useless and like im campaigning against them.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

 

1. It is pretty much impossible to doge due to you being able to toss it and kill someone immediately, whether you had shield up or not. And it's not that easy to dodge, trust me. Don't try to gauge how you can dodge because barely anyone knows how to truly wield a boulder. You get a slash up because that is the only thing that is fast enough to destroy the boulder, but if you release the boulder at any time after the slash, it touches you and you die, even if your slash should've touched and killed you. Being able to throw a boulder, point blank, horizontally, and instakill anyone that it touches ever so slightly, doesn't just make no sense, it's incredibly broken.

2. These are intended features, but if you wish . . . .

Bomb jump - The force of the blast would possibly propel you into the air (or at least side-ways) if you are properly protected.

Water - Well, there is no explanation to this, but it's either heavy armor can swim in water or there is no water in-game.

Shield Glide - Well . . . . . I don't know, but the newer updates have it make more sense. After all, on the Knight, it seems like it's mostly a chestplate and armor, so the top would be the only thing truly taking up too much weight. If you then add in an umbrella-like metal shield that has a lot of wood on it, so it's a buckler , there wouldn't be too much weight to have it make no sense for him to be dragged down. If he had leather chestplate and metal grieves, than yea, it wouldn't make as much sense.

 

You can dodge boulders though! All it takes is a well time slash. And not always do boulders one hit I'd say one out of ten times it brings em down to half a heart. And as you said these are intended features so are boulders. Sorry if this post is sloppy I'm on my phone.

 

My opinion on the matter is that boulders are incredibly fragile, and not too many builders ride them into battle. Catapults and boulders are great combo, boulders take up all your inventory, and they slow you down. Why remove it?

 

I believe they should go

I don't understand why you should be able to just touch someone Woth a boulder and have it do damage

Maybe if you drop it on someone
But people are literally throwing it upwards and killing you

IMO not really fun

I believe a nerf would be a good idea where if you drop it on someone not throw it upwards at someone

 

A nerf is fine. Removal is unnecessary.

 

yes, nerfing the boulders would be a great thing for kag, having an item that allows you to simply nudge against them for an instakill..., makes no sense, and is overpowered in my opinion, the boulder should only kill you if its thrown from a far enough height so when it lands on you and you end up dying it actually makes sense, also buffing the boulders destructive capabilities via catapult would be nice too, currently the boulder seems the bug out when fired into a wall only causing 2 or 3 blocks of damage....

 

Why do you guys suddenly want to remove boulders? Why didn't this suggestion come up in the beginning of kag?

 

Well, with the nerf of momentum slashes these got too OP imo

 

Because no one really used it as an insta-kill from below someone, so we weren't aware of them.
And no one used them, so nobody saw them, nobody thought of them, so they didn't exist, thus the suggestion didn't.

 

What happened with the momentum slashes? I've been bouldering before and after the update and havent seen a change.