Cooldown on Jabs

ha, fixed, ping can't get fixed. It's not jab spamming itself that is annoying, it's just that a high latency player can get 4 jabs off and kill you, and you'll only be able to react way after you are dead.

 

No dude, it's just fucking lag. If every bug in the game got fixed immediately afterreporting, we wouldn't have such things as problems.

 

But what really annoys me is that jabspammers with 200 ping can kill a normal knight with 33 ping. They won't get stunned, and wont get hit by jabs either, so only bombs and slash help you now.

 

and, as sbc said, since lag can't be fixed, the only way to solve this problem is to make jabs weaker/less easy to use

 

Personally, a larger jab hitbox, but a much slower jab would be a good change imo. Right now, jabs are really inconsistent due to latency (maybe I'm bad), but I have trouble landing them when I need to, but then can jab spam on eu servers like a mofo.

 

The general issue is that jabs should be a secondary attack meant to accompany "real" attacks with occasional use, but the game does not prevent you from just spamming it and creating a high chance that oncoming knights will get their slashes canceled if they get anywhere near you. This would be fine if you timed a jab just right to do this, not so much when you were jitter clicking the whole time.

 

I just got killed by a jab spammer. It's definitely the speed at which they can jab. If they do it right they can get 3 hearts off when I get stunned.

 

It's pretty much a phase for me. It hasn't bothered me too much recently but it really sucks when there's new players that don't know anything but jabbing

 

Well personally I don't think the system of jabbing is too bad. It adds that other option to fighting and it just so happens that this is the first discovery for new players.

How someone can get away with jabbing a player
Knight
It's rare that a player can get a jab spam kill unless they're fighting another new player or someone who just doesn't expect it by spamming mindlessly.
Archer
An archer has been trapped and gets jabbed. An archer gets cocky with a triple shot and gets jab spammed to death (why I suspect this thread was created) or just an overtime period of jabs being placed on the archer as he swings by trying to take out the knight.
Solutions
Knight: Back up from the jabber and get slashes in or take part in "jabfu" @Potatobird
Archer: (Bare with me I'm no archer) Get far enough yet close enough to land a triple shot or stomp the player as I've seen @kodysch do several times. Or resulting to your various arsenal of arrows.

I don't really feel the need for change as I see jabs being very counterable as it is.

 

I 110% agree that jabs are perfect for countering slashes but why do they have to be spammable? If they made two jabs and then a cool down I think that'd be fair. It'd give the player a chance for counter play and prevent it from being spammed.

 

I disagree, jabbing is a tonne of fun to do to someone not expecting. You play with slashes and shield with someone and then BAM BAM BAM BAM gg. The best part is when they complain :).

 

I agree with a cooldown, possibly what Swine said, 2 jabs and then a 3~ second cooldown.

But to address why jabspamming is a problem. It is mostly from latency. Not only from the spammer, but the spamee. A knight with latency problems (Such as myself) being attacked by a jab spammer will be able to get off at least 2 jabs or kill me before the server picks up that i am shielding. And if the spammer is lagging aswell, well that is just death. What we need to address is how new players resort to jabbing because it seems easy and or effective. I would hope that fixing this would help the community. We need to act fast or KAG will die soon.

 

The only thing that bothers me about fighting multiple enemies and losing to jab spammers is that I can't always depend on my team to hold the frontline. Why should good players lose a fight to players that can just jab to win. Obviously nobody complains about slashing because it's usually their fault if they lose. Jabs are mindless and overpowered (depending when/how they are used). With having kag designed the way it is, good players win games. I like dueling with people at a similar skill level because you can try and predict their movements. Then you can counter them and once someone makes a mistake they usually die. With jab spamming from multiple people, all you can expect is to get perma stunned and instantly killed. There is nothing intuitive about jabspam only play. I encourage jabs to counter slashes but ffs the way it is now is like having an archer's half shots do a full heart of damage... It's annoying

 

Hahaha I'll open that up to the public after I have a cw with a few more clans. Its not that I can't pub stomp anymore because I can. It's just that a majority of my deaths are due to jabspammers. Teamwork is beautiful don't get me wrong, but the right kind of teamwork is even better. If water arrows were free to the archer wouldn't you get a little frustrated if half of the enemy team was using them?