Let's Fix TTH - Accepting Your Suggestions!

We used to hand it out like candy on Action

but then everyone grew up and life happened

 

The main issue I have with TTH is that the progression of the game hits a ceiling within the first minute and then we get stuck in a stalemate until teams get unbalanced. I never understood the maximum production limit, but there's no way to progress your siege when you can only have a few ballistas/catapults/kegs/mines available at any given time.

 

There's this bug when someone has a bomb workshop or something like it with ammo that someone can get infinite bombs from it. Let's say someone builds a bomb workshop really high and there right by it, they can keep on getting bombs and lighting/throwing them at the opposing team down below, though I'm not sure how to fix this.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 23, 2015, Original Post Date: Feb 23, 2015 ---

So, if you unlock something from the tech tree with resources, you can use coins to buy it, but if you don't you use gold to buy it?

 

I think what I don't like about TTH is the fact that it's very hard to capture multiple halls if you don't have a good team to back you up. I think that there should only be 2 halls and the map was smaller. And you'd also be allowed more production. That would be amazing imo because it would still keep the basics of TTH and make it go faster. If the 2 halls is too short maybe a 3rd hall in the middle of the map, so it's just a constant battle for control of mid. I think this would make things go a lot faster and feel more intense for the players. It would most likely attract players that aren't "good enough" to buy expense items such as catas, kegs, etc. while still being just as intense as ctf. Heck, I'd probably switch to TTH if those changes were made.

 

- Two Tents and some Halls.
- Halls can be captured, Tents can't.
- Halls give points over time if under control.
- Points are automatically converted into the items you've researched.
- When a team has earned enough points the game's over.

 

So like domination? I like it but maybe for a different gamemode since it doesn't really look like tth anymore except for the halls part.

 

Well wood and stone is pretty accessible. I wouldn't make it cost enough stone to cause a brand new type of resource drought, "STONE DROUGHT". Then it kinda defeats the purpose of making new workers accessible, but you could make workers require a dorm, which of course would be much easier to destroy than a hall upgraded with gold. So it has some disadvantages.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 1, 2015, Original Post Date: Feb 26, 2015 ---

Really loving the changes to you've made to TTH so far. It's already more fun to play.

Just a small suggestion: we don't need to remove night time. We just need colored lanterns with a huge light radius so we can have disco parties, just like in the old classic mods.

 

Lanterns with increased light radius is a better balance imo. Balances are ok so far

 

I actually already have code for this so get psyched.

 

Make the lanterns change colors so it is a rave disco party.

 

I remember the days when I was on the MOLE servers and someone with the name Doc would always make rave towers. I wish I could remember his full name. Good old days. Pointless beautiful buildings.

 

I don't have the code anymore but I can remake it.

edit: if you just want random colored lantern, duplice the lantern blob and change the onTick function into this:

Code:

void onTick( CBlob@ this )
{
this.SetLightColor( SColor(255, XORRandom(256), XORRandom(256), XORRandom(256)));

    if (this.isLight() && this.isInWater())
    {
        Light( this, false );
    }
}

edit2:
If you don't like the randomness, change line 5. argb (keep alpha 255)

Code:

    this.SetLightColor( SColor(255, r, g, b ) ); //red value, green value, blue value

Maybe you just didn't like the random color every 24 ticks, and want the lantern to not change color, but set a random color upon creating the lantarn. Same thing as the onTick, but we don't want it every tick but only on init. Line 5:

Code:

this.SetLightColor( SColor(255, XORRandom(256), XORRandom(256), XORRandom(256)));

edit3:
Also you have to remove

Code:

    this.getCurrentScript().runFlags |= Script::tick_inwater;

because it breaks color changing in onTick.

I uploaded a zip of the jukebox, also the jukebox is water resistant
If you're going to use this and want multiple songs or something else: spam me on Steam

 

How about when you have unlocked a tech by researching it your hall you buy the scrolls (which allow you to build the workshop) with money (coins you earn from kills) and there is no limit to how many scrolls of one particular item you can have, instead the cost increases exponentially (*10 every time for example) so that the first few workshops are relatively easy to get (say, 10 coins, then 100 coins) but then it gets extremely expensive, but not impossible (1000 coins and then 10000 coins). This would teams can get the upper hand in a long battle by investing their money in more scrolls (and therefore more workshops). It would also reinforce the theme of immediate gain vs long term benefit as you could choose to buy items from shops (immediate gain) or save up for an expensive scroll (long term benefit). You could also use different scale and original prices for each scroll (so ballista could start at 150, then go to 600 then 2400 (*4 every time), while bombs/arrows could start at 5, then 25, then 125 etc. (*5 every time)).

Note this would apply to the number of scrolls purchased, not workshops built (to avoid exploitation).

 

Instead it should be adding increments instead of multiplying them, in my opinion then they would just be too high opposed to the more controlled addition of more price, this would still carry on the same idea but I'm quite sure only sangfroid could get 10000 coins.

 

That was sort of the point as it would prevent a team from getting too many of a good workshop, while still remaining POSSIBLE.

 

eh, then it would be limited to truly only 2 workshops unless you have a sangfroid

What I think would work is after having placed a workshop there would be a delay for like 30 sec - 1 min in which you couldn't build the same workshop.