Skybridges still exist

But Fin when Horizontal Support was removed we all complained due to it not working like it should, I mean, I understand your point but if skybridges are removed would that really help the games... length per say? Now I know we're talking about the effects it's causing such as lack of team co-operation but if we remove skybridges will that solve the problems? In my opinion: No.

 

We need add something to replace skybridge

 

That's a poor excuse.

The change was revoked because it dawned on the developers that skybridges ended stalemates. It's somewhere on the tumblr.

 

Did we? I don't remember that. I distinctly remember the changes being revoked in favour of "creative building" because the developers believed that having a horizontal support limit was limiting creativity.

 

Well actually Neat, people still built skybridges despite the horizontal support. There were a couple glitchy building patterns that let you build horizontally to infinity. However I don't think that was the problem. The problem is that MM just said "screw it" and took out support instead of fixing it. Geti has said that he liked the support.

IMO we not only did limited horizontal building, but some way of limiting vertical building.

Also we shouldn't be able to shoot through drawbridges. Everyone was like "yay that means we can shoot people off of bridges" but if you'll remember that was one of the main problems of skybridges, that people can shoot at you with a massive height advantage.

@Eric: are you talking to use through google translate or something?

 

I think that 20 overall blocks support and no support for drawbridges would be perfect.

 

Oh right yeah, now I remember.

But yeah i'm pretty sure if they fixed the bugs then people would not be able to build skybridges in response.

 

You know what else ends stalemates? Team lives.

 

I think the only issue I have is that it makes removing enemies from a spike pit harder.
Though in reality, stone is preventative enough. (It's just that some people still don't stone-line their pits :3)

contrary, do you think making bombs pass through, and still allowing travel via drawbridges (while removing shooting) would be a good fix?

 

Why not add a feature to change the catapult firing angles... could help with your sky bridge dilemmas if you could aim up more. The dilemma I found with sky bridges was from the lack of an effective counter other then a skybridge. So reintegrating the old-school building restrictions is fine and all; but as long as the sky is very high and there isn't anything that is truly effective at destroying a bridge in the sky there will always be sky bridges in this game.

 

Oh, yee!
As I said you previously, after this update just focus 100% on zombies and other cool stuff :P

 

We should just re-add horizontal support but make it a little more lenient, like 10 or 15 blocks.

Oh! Better yet, we could add vertical support, where things get easier to topple when you build higher up.

 

sounds really buggy

 

I like the part about the content that gives us more ways to take them down.

 

Couldn't it just work like archer fire angle does now though? On max power on a high angle shot it drops like a stone (like you know what with you having made the game and all) and you can barely get off the edge of the screen alot of the time, and even with a flat angle you can't get that much further in my limitedish experience. Couldn't that arc of fire be applied to catapults aswell?

 

It is particularly ironic that the change that was supposed to increase building creativity did nothing more than turn every single defensive structure into a 30x30 stone slab with a skybridgetower on top.
I really cannot think of a single "legitimate overhang structure" that would not be possible with the old system and actually be meaningful.

Of course, for example, wooden walls could be lighter, in the sense that more can be placed horizontally.

Building 'bridges', say, over crevices should be a hard task.
If you are just placing a block after a block with no supports, it's not a bridge. It's a plank.

Even if you make fire arrows, obviously people will just switch to stone bridges. Of course this may affect defense, but a single builder can build the bridge while the rest of the team meatpiles on the attacking team.

I can understand that you guys are more interested in making new cool content instead of flipping hardcoded flags back and forth, but I just want to emphasize how flawed the skybridges are as a gameplay mechanic.

Build vertically. Build horizontally. Period.

They also look really dumb. Like, just dumb. Dumb. Stupidest thing in the game.

There's also the related issue of defending being completely brainless and trivial compared to attacking,
but that's the vertical team travel thing and lack of attacking gadgets. Though I cannot see how will a battering ram or a powder keg actually help with the team-only slabs and pits, though. Unless we're talking about kegs that can level a 30x30 slab.

 

I might have a suggestion, I didn't see it anywhere yet, but it might've been suggested multiples times already since it's quite obvious. (Note that the suggestion is not the weapon, but it's functional use in the skybridge-problem.

Since the catas shouldn't aim higher due to reasons well described by Geti, what if you have a mortar-like weapon? It shoots straight up, and the projectile falls straight down again. And if it's made so that it can't eat trough dirt so you can't use it underground, it could be a flawless anti-skybridge.

This would be perfect to prevent skybridges from actually getting near your base. You could just use it in the middle of the map. And if the mortar is made un-moveable and cheap(2 maybe 3 blocks of 10x10) to make, I can't see any other problems being caused by it.

ps: and Geti, this would mean you could both make something new and fix a bug at the same time!

 

Skybridges are annoying on both sides cause if its built wrong it kills your team over and over as they run off the edge 50 times before learning.I like the idea of mortars though.