Devlog KAG KAG - Build 1859 - Sponge Defense and Various Fixes

interesting update, i wonder how the community will react

btw who drew that masterpiece?

 

I hate to be critical all the time, but this is a bandaid solution to balancing water bombs. To have stun immunity in this fashion is very circumstantial. Sponges are extremely cheap to make but require a fair bit of preparation (switch to builder class, farm wood, walk to builder shop, spam spange). Not to mention that carrying 4 sponges means pretty much total immunity, as if water bombs were used too much already.

The real fix is to make getting stunned actually avoidable:
-make water bombs explode on a timer just like bombs
-water arrows need a bigger rework where they possibly explode X seconds after impact

Nevertheless it's good to see efforts are being made to improve the game

 

Ayyyy the tunnel archer grapple got fixed soon after I reported it! Coincidence? I think not. :D

Other than that it seems like a neat little build, although with the new absorbing sponges i'd really like to see sponges added to the TDM shop menu if possible, that way you can counter water spammers on TDM as well :>

 

@kedram

 

Just in case anyone is skeptical about it countering water well enough, take it from tooth having a sponge makes the water nearly negligible.

Some good updates recently thanks guys.

ps m8
Geti I truly believe a proper tutorial would help this game so much in terms of player retention and lowering the cases of bad bad bad building that leads to frustration in many games. I have the perfect idea of how to do it and I'm no coder but I think it would be simple. Something worth considering imo.

 

good thing i can still buy 6 water arrows to outdo 4-sponge carrying fag knights.

the developers are first.

 

watch me buy all the sponges instead of carrying bombs to rain explosions on everyone

Spoiler

not. only dumbasses complain about water

 

Never seen such an intuitive feature.

 

utmost splendid!

I am glad to be of assistance!

 

So are we removing all the pretenses that sponges actually had a viable use before this build?
Also what if someone uses a water bomb on someone right infront of them and then has a sponge in their inventory? Do they get the waterbomb soaked up?

 

Well if the sponges are allowed to be in your hands and still negate water then that still negates it other than one water arrow but also assuming that sponges cost like 5-10 coins or so (I keep it at this low number because these things will still be clogging your inventory, so it's enough punishment to have less inventory slots, having to pay massive cash for a clogged inventory is a bit silly to me.) you'd still be wasting around 60 coins just to assist in the kill of one or two knights. (This obviously depends on how many knights you use it on but most times knights don't bunch together, they instead get in lines to attempt meatshielding.)

 

The water nerf was much needed IMHO.

 

Was playing on EU today and apparently that's the case, if so that really needs to be changed. People on the server were talking about people buying waterbombs and sponges and simply hugging the other knights and spamming jabs. I'd like to think of it like boxing when one of the boxers grabs the other to get them to stop getting wailed on, except the boxer that grabbed is now allowed to punch the other one in the face.

My only two problems with the update is no sponges in tdm yet, which Geti said he's working on getting next week, and this self waterbomb stuff. People are gonna exploit the hell outta that and it just makes water even MORE OP than usual, and encourages the use of water. Hope it's not too daunting to fix!

 

It really doesnt seem that exploitable. My only issue is that it will cost coins though my whining about it is really trivial. I am just salty because it is so obvious this new feature has an actual use but sponges have basically no viable use for what it should do(it does allow an "air bubble tho").