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[228] Uncollapseable!!?!

Discussion in 'Builder' started by Demented_SCV, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. Demented_SCV

    Demented_SCV Shopkeep Stealer

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    What I'm about to show you is super hush hush. Shhh. Don't let the Dev's know! They may fix it in the next build. So make sure you don't show them this thread. ^.^

    I built the following structures in Solo Mode, and just to make sure it was feasible I built 1 or 2 ingame.

    Here's a building image from the Builder's Thread: [228] The Dog House.
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    There are some concerned posts in that thread about this building's durability. Several bombs could undo it. So let's make it stronger. Hmm. How to do that? What about dirt?

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    Yes. I think this building with all of its background walls made of dirt should do the trick! Good luck knocking that dirt down with a catapult or a bomb (you can't)!

    Hmm. What other structures could we make more sturdy? Maybe some Acavado Spikes? [203] Acavado Spikes.
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    Or maybe we'll make a simple wall that stays standing no matter how many concrete blocks are removed!
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    I consider this an exploit, and so I haven't (other than limited testing) done this in games. Are structures like this kick/bannable offenses? Even if these are allowable, the resource cost to do so is immense. Who knew building dirt was so expensive?
     
  2. Neat

    Neat King of the Dead Donator Tester

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    How on earth do you place dirt backwall?
     
  3. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    1. Place three background castle wall, one on top of the other.
    2. On the top 2 place bridges.
    3. Break both bridges. (You now have dirt background, continue for floating structures)

    4. Place background castle wall over the dirt tile.
    5. Place stone on that dirt tile
    6. ???
    7. Floating Island
     
  4. Wyeth

    Wyeth KAG Guard Donator Tester

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    Its pretty easy and I would think that people would complain about you being a hacker for doing this. This exploit has been in a long time, I think its a map format issue, since the combination of tiles which creates dirt backwall seemingly doesnt exist, so it just creates dirt back wall depending on the biggest amount of background tiles around it (so it would create castle back wall if you were to place castle backwalls around it). I don't think this is something that should be ingame, but I doubt that its going to be fixed next build. Then again they said something about a new map saving format, so maybe it will.

    I don't quite know what the proper way to handle this is (ban wise), I don't think you should be doing it ingame... its not a very fun thing to do and people will accuse you of hacking.
     
  5. killatron46

    killatron46 Cata Whore Donator
    1. MOLEing Over Large Estates - [MOLE]

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    I've known about building dirt back walls, but I didn't think of adding it to the dog house as a "feature". It seems like (to me) for this build there glitches that are used often and people complain about but they're "okay" and glitches that are just too darned good, like dirt back walling. I sometimes make dirt back walls by mistake just because I placed something wrong, but I haven't ever purposely built a tall thin tower back walled to be invincible. I believe this glitch should not be abused, and if a structure is constructed in this way on purpose, (seeing as it would take so many resources you could tell) the person should at least be warned or temporarily kicked. That is just my opinion though, and I have no admin/guard rights on any server.
     
  6. goodyman8

    goodyman8 Bison Rider

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    In one of the builds we get this will get fixed,dirt backgrounds wont support anymore to prevent stuff like this,and make collapses possible in tunnels(which i believe is going to be awesome,destroy building. cave in destroys rest)
     
  7. Noburu

    Noburu Dirty, DRUNK, Hillbilly Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    It was suppose to be in last build but got scrapped apparently and I havent heard anything else about it.
     
  8. goodyman8

    goodyman8 Bison Rider

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    Was it?
    I thought the fix would be comming next build,and even if not then im sure it will come SOME time.