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Why on earth is everyone building ladders up towers in *** doors again?

Discussion in 'Builder' started by AnRK, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Darksteel

    Darksteel The see me Boulderin', they hatin'. Donator
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    I know, I do that, but not everyone knows, or thinks to do that. lets not spill into another fight on this thread ok Blueluigi?

    The three door thing is annoying, but it also allows workshops to be built right next to doors... which is also stupid, but people fail to see this.
     
  2. AnRK

    AnRK Shark Slayer

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    Building 2 tiles above yourself is kinda glitchy too at the moment though, never seems to work for me anymore and have to build from the side.
     
  3. BlueLuigi

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    Yea it's due to characters being slightly over 2 tiles tall now, so you just move aside a little and it's fine ;)
    Maybe I'll be fixed later, who knows.
     
  4. Downburst

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    I didn't read the total thread, but the main point of doors instead of bridges is that doors don't take space.
    So you should make a tower with doors at the front next to a tree! That makes it impossible for the enemy to attach bridges/ladders to your building.
    Concept:
    concept building.PNG

    edit: Yes I know about the doors being easily convertible cause of some bug, but don't start about that. This is how it's supposed to be good.

    edit 2: OH you meant like these stupid 2 block wide teamdoor spam, if you really need a vertical safe way, you should build it like this:
    oh like that...PNG
    It's fast to go up, quite slow to go down. But why on earth do you want to go down a big building anyway. You should never have to go down, and if you do, just take the outside of your tower to slide on.
     
  5. So your saying (and this is to everyone) That Strathos is a faggot, a noob and retarded for building elevator doors, because he builds them every time, and no one complains or says a word about them.
     
  6. BlueLuigi

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    Read the post before yours I was referring to those pieces of shit, slow down the enemy and don't do enough to stop knights to be worth a damn, the second pic.


    As for the first pic I believe it was settled before, bridges to start then doors
     
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  7. Oh, sorry, i was referring to stacking a single line of doors and using them to get up and down towers.
     
  8. Monsteri

    Monsteri Slower Than Light Tester

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    Downburst, one word: Archers.
     
  9. Downburst, few words: I do this all the time. Archers are dangerous in small CTFs (like 5v5), but in normal games they don't even have a chance to go the wall because there is a bloodbath on the battlefield.
     
  10. BlueLuigi

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    Those are also absolute shit and I yell at people who do it.
     
  11. Darksteel

    Darksteel The see me Boulderin', they hatin'. Donator
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    You yell at everyone.

    Besides that, depending on the situation they can be useful to. don't generalize on a construction, you will hurt it's feelings.
     
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  12. BlueLuigi

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    Their use is very limited and they are overused, in the wrong way
     
  13. Darksteel

    Darksteel The see me Boulderin', they hatin'. Donator
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    I won't argue with that, but never judge a book by its cover. unless the book is called "Metaphors for dummies"
     
  14. Darksteel, the problem is if we would call door elevators useful lots of newbies would put them everywhere.
    Same problem with eg. door hallways, not really bad all the time but in some cases terrible.
     
  15. Darksteel

    Darksteel The see me Boulderin', they hatin'. Donator
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    I am only saying that if you were to rage at someone for building this without looking at the full picture...
    how often do noobs read these forums anyway? :p
     
  16. BlueLuigi

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    A book's cover should be a summary of what is inside, nevertheless I read the inside cover before calling it a complete piece of shit, the problem is that most people try and make their cover look better than the contents, but a quick overview will usually tell you what's good or not.

    In any case, none of that matters, that thing still sucks.
     
  17. Darksteel

    Darksteel The see me Boulderin', they hatin'. Donator
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    Your Generalizing again. -.-
     
  18. BlueLuigi

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    I'm really not, you're just assuming that I can't look at shit and tell its shit, the only time that is acceptable is when your players don't have to go in/out of it
     
  19. Guys, once again you have gotten into flaming each other over another topic. If you going to keep doing this in every thread that you two disagree on, i suggest taking it to PM's, so we don't have to put up with you two arguing. Also, Blueluigi, i dare you to bitch to Strathos about this, because he is the one that builds them more than anyone else and tell him that its shit and only noobs build them; i bet you going to get an earful from him over it, especially the noob part.

    One other thing, why do you and you other clan mates rage at noobs for building the worst structures? so they are crap, but it still keeps the enemy at bay and delays them from reaching the flag. they are also still learning the game, much as we did when we started, but we learned from those who knew and i think you should help the noobs be better, instead of raging at them everytime.
     
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  20. BlueLuigi

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    Most of the really bad ones aren't helping us, in fact they hinder us getting out, which means it takes longer for us to win, or can make us lose by taking forever for us to leave

    Furthermore they are usually built in a way that offers only a single entrance, aka a choke point so if an enemy builder gets there it's over, they cap it off and TA fucking DA good luck getting out to stop them. In general it's bad, in general newbs need to get used to building shit that's not shit.
    KAG is the type of game that needs ranks or general stats eventually similar to DOTA style games (Think LoL), or tiers (think SC) where you won't often have to play with people who are retarded if you're used to competent people.
     
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