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[360] bomb jump ==with new update==

Discussion in 'Knight' started by kl4060, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    Double Bomb jump from Strathos:

    If you find it hard to see, he threw the first bomb on the ground then quickly grabbed the next. I assume with slight different times, you can get a more horizontal distance if you wanted or something (I wouldn't know either way, I suck with bombs).
     
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  2. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Standing on the ground cripples your jump in the lastest build fwiw. You have to be off the ground, -> ideally shielding down ABOVE the bomb to jump off.
     
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  3. Creille

    Creille Base Burner

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    Recently I've been using the jump: throw bomb behind you and shield the explosion
    and it is really reliable when your on servers that are quite leggy for you and you can go quite far :)
     
  4. kl4060

    kl4060 Haxor

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    i got it now thanks
     
  5. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Does throwing up finally spike you down again?
    Does held bombjumping finally instantly kill you again?

    These types of casual bombjumps need to be removed and penalized, they are far too OP when it comes to most things, for example when you are grabbing a bomb someone jumped, if you are shielding up the entire time, you won't take damage or die, this makes stealing bombs or negating them too easy. Needs to instantly kill you, you should HAVE to throw it away from you after and shield.
    (Wish shielding down didn't automatically shield both to the left and right as well)
     
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  6. Ostricheggs

    Ostricheggs Shipwright

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    They removed that "kill everything by shielding up" trick quite a few builds ago luigi. Shielding up on the ground (or when colliding with anything) does instantly kill you. It's also so subject to lag it's quite hilarious. You can't hand-held with over 100 ping or you'll die 90% of the time. Often times you'll jump in the air, shield up and either blow up in the air or land then blow up.

    The entire discussion comes down to this IMO: If you want bomb jumping where you're able to pinpoint it to a few tiles, leave hand-helds in. If you want bomb jumping where the direction you go is subject to substantial lag and randomness, remove hand-helds and keep the dropped bombs. If you want a slower pace of KAG, remove it all-together.

    As I said before, I'm not expert at dropped bombs, but from the times I've done it (usually for that extra distance) it's either you go flying or you fall flat on your face with very little in between, especially now with the nerf to shielding up (which benefited thrown more than handhelds IMO).

    To the people who keep bringing up how scrubby the new-fangled bomb-jump is, understand that there's vast differences between the two in purpose and bugginess. The game changes. Very few people bomb jump or even attempt to because a very large majority of people regard it as a bug that needs to be fixed that's abused by little scrublets like moi

    P.S. The nerf to shielding while in the air did absolutely nothing to how you can pin-point bomb-jumps, especially with hand-helds!
     
  7. darkdrake

    darkdrake Ballista Bolt Thrower Staff Alumni

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    I love bomb jumping to. Going to the other teams base and killing unsuspecting builders is FUN. Also when you see knights trying to get up to kill you and you slaughter them. :red::migrant:
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    :D
     
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  8. Ghozt

    Ghozt Haxor

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    I found out how to bomb jump as archer. You might be familiar with when you bob jump into ladders you can go flying out really fast and far, well I go affected in a tree by a bomb, 1/2 a heart and because the trees act like ladders, I could jump massive, so should we make an elite group called, "ABJ = Archer Bomb Jumpers" for only the best of daredevils?
     
  9. kl4060

    kl4060 Haxor

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    just go in to a 2 by 2 by 2 hole and block up while holding bomb!
    when they get near! BOOOMM and fly
     
  10. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    You can do it as an airborne builder as well, you just need to clear the bomb by a much larger radius than you do as a knight (and you end up taking a bunch of damage too). Doesn't mean it's not awesome when you end up on top of an enemy wall because of it. Hellooooo blockspam time.
     
  11. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    it a bit weird no one talking about air bomb jumping in this forum... what i do is: on a building cook a bomb till the timer is roughly 40-50 left then jump off and shield up. seems to be the most effective compared to others. few tips:1. if too slow you blow up (waiting till 20-30 time left) if you land on the ground you blow up and avoid both kinds of team bridges.
     
  12. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    The problem is, that is called held bomb jumping, and isn't actually intended.
    The way you're meant to do it in the air involves throwing the bomb below yourself and shielding down.

    We really need to get a tutorial with all of this stuff explained at some point. Such unrewarding work though, haha.
     
  13. GloriousToast

    GloriousToast Haxor Donator

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    are you going to remove it?
     
  14. Ghozt

    Ghozt Haxor

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    Yes Geti, when people ask how to bomb jump I show them the thrown jump,
    I always say, "Practice this jump, the held jump is going soon!"
    ATM I only do the thrown jump, because when you guys finally take it out, I will be on top of the world.

    If this does go ahead Ithink it will create a lot of balance, instead of an easy jump through you will have a heightened chance of dying. (Don't get me wrong, when held bomb jumping was mega easy, it was fin but majorly unbalanced)

    Thanks.
     
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  15. Kater

    Kater Horde Gibber

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    I one's practiced bomb jumping in my own server, after a while i got a double bomb jumb, it worked a bit like Kouji showed us in that video, it's real hard, but with much work and experience, you finaly get to do the Double bomb jump one time in your life.