Build 808

Thank you very much ! :D
Gonna try this nao.

 

Can you clarify and possible give a thread or video on how to do Arcrave's bombjumping I'm curious.
Also and I was about to report a bug that happened in build 806 noting major but still it matters.

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OK, 1, 2, 3.... thingy.
Haven't seen sand, sponges seems to be fine.
As I heard from people sand test failed.
Just as I predicted there will be many problems with the sand balancing


1) war bot ladders are weird, don't you think?

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There should be something like a ladder going up the mast And people should not be able to climb in areas 1, 2 and 3.

2) I like new kegs. but the block destroying radius is still to big.

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Explosion should be going 2 blocks higher not 1 and 1 blog down not 2.
Block destroying radius on the sides should be 3 blocks wide not 4.
With stone doors it works fine, but not with dirt and wood and stone blocks.

3) Gib scroll and magical gold scroll should not be this cheep people will dig for scrolls not research ( actually they should not even be there)
1 scroll per map is enough to put 1 team in the winning position.

4) Gold stack up to 1000. Make it stack up to 500 like every other resource dose, gold is nothing special.

5) Yes sky bridges.

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I want skybridges to be nerfed down to the blue mark, that what I want.
Now what's important Nerf it down to the red mark. Still to long.

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I love how selfish people are I created a map which was basically 2 sky bridges and people were crying How's that it is a bad map because people jump on top of the ships and kill everybody. Now people like Ohh , sky bridges, They are good, not a problem.

6) Can't see promised Ballista artillery outposts.

 

808 :
(kag got renamed to Scroll of carnage war :p)

3 reasons for that :

1. make a wood farm and a saw, gather 2000 wood, which wont take you longer then 1 minute after the first time getting a saw and having the wood farm up.

2. Go to trader, exchange 2000 wood to 250 gold, buy 2 x scroll of carnage and use em like a bitch :D

3. If ur trader is out of stock, kill him and wait for respawn, he'll have no out of stock cooldown anymore.

So basicly, the bug that the trader out of stock cooldown is removed when dead is the biggest problem, while the scroll of carnage aswell be might a bit too cheap.

That's all, else it's a great build and before we found that bug the game was great^^

 

Trades cant sell magic is illegal to do that in KAG .

 

NKking, people whined about your maps because they were impossible to end and the defending team always had a huge advantage. Not only that, but they didn't even need to work for the height advantage, it was there naturally, with dirt backwall so it wasn't possible to collapse either. And I have no idea how disliking obviously terrible maps counts as selfishness.

Constructing a skybridge yourself is something entirely different. It can be collapsed, used against you and it requires resources to set up. It would be terrible if we only had support of 5 blocks. Even regular ground level structures would be a pain in the ass to create.
I'd also like to note that THERE IS A BUG REPORTS SUBFORUM. You don't need to list every tiny bug in here. The testers will add your reported bugs to mantis and Geti ends up seeing them anyway.

 

When Trader dies the out of stock cooldown gets removed and he respawns after 15 seconds, did you fix that too?

Also, traders can be killed by the own team cauze he's neutral. So basicly there's no cooldowns on the scrolls right now or any other stuff you can buy on trader.

 

No-o-o-o ;(

 

I rarely spot bug most of the time I report disbalanced about things.
And I put my map as example AGAIN not because of how easy it is to destroy a d(cliffs in my map) but how big of a advantage the height gives in kag. I agree that was a bad map but I don't want to hear that from you I never agreed and never will agree that you are a good admin or a mapper (especially mapper)
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Another thing People learned how to use sponges to build underwater bases.

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water should reappear after the sponge sponged it . Not just refill the empty space. I hope I described it in a understandable way.

 

I understand bigger maps and perhaps random throwable objects, but picking up people not really...it would be too annoying.

The only thing that bothers me is that knight combat is all about mashing M1 instead of having prolonged duels where knights actually use different techniques, combat feels very casual now and kinda makes you feel like some meat bag, the slightest stun from anything gets to you, I'm serious about it, there is a lot of things that stun you endlessly and let me give you examples: water bombs/arrows, bombs, shield parry break, jabbing other knights shield, charging power slash for too long, being hit with arrow, stun from falling, there is too much of it, I also think water ammo should be made as simply something that allows you to fight fires better.

I also did mockup of how I think technology research should work, If someone cares about it too, please elaborate and let's figure potential alternatives to a progression system that is currently implemented in game.




System is very simple, click on button with tech icon on it, infobox displays info about technology and if certain tech needs scroll, the more votes on given tech the more priority it gets, each player has 1 votes max per one button, it does not speed up research but instead gives priority to what should be done first, so if you want ballista very early in game, very well then ask teammates to place votes on it, if votes are not specified, items should researched one by one in their normal queue.

Note: Small thing on picture it says "faster" what I mean by it is basically priority.

 

Hmm, I like your idea about research But research should stay progressive. + if research will be so people chose what they want right in the beginning of the game there will be no point in gold at all ( there will be a smaaaalll part of players who will still use gold.)
Nice clean research window, I like it.

There should be 2 research trees( like it is now) Ammo and transport. I think all researches which are available in the game should be able to gain by research and if they want stuff faster , well, dig for gold.
Stabs should be slower. And I think that all players who play KAG for a long time have their own tricks on how to fight but super stabing beats them all.
maybe some sort of loop

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Just honestly NKking, how terrible knight are you? ONE JAB IS ENOUGH TO STUN YOUR ENEMY FOR 2 SECONDS. And all you have to do is hold RMB. What IS hard about it? Jabbing is NOT overpowered or superior tactic, it's slashing + jab combos. What sets your skill bar is how well you can time the combo and how well can you compensate with lag.

Slowing down jab doesn't improve gameplay.
Slowing down jab and adding a tiny momentum boost could do so however.

I wonder if you are either a tree stump or high on weed all the time to think "super stabing" beats all the other attacks.

 

I used to play this game called Pirates, Vikings and Knights II for a bit, what happens there when you get stunned, it does not stop you from moving at all but instead it allows you to move slowly around, in KAG however when you get stunned, you are locked in place, unless it's stun from water arrow or bomb which somehow allows you to drift around without animation, in PVK2 you could still attack while being stunned but it wouldn't allow you to do as much damage or break blocks, the game also had this simple yet effective system of "perfect parry" which if you parried correctly against an attack it would stagger your opponent and you get to strike him back, kind of like double slash which seems to never work.

 

Stabing is a bit to fast A BIT. Yes you can jump back, shield it them stab or slash back. But it is not about me or you playing the game right.
Just honestly Monsteri, while writing that comment, have you thought about new player? Not noobs not idiots just about people who just bought the game a jumped in to the beta straight away or people who played classic all the time.
When people join beta they see all these strong knight who own them. New players are not used to the new slash timing so they just start stab spam. and I feel sad for them because the see how powerful is stabbing so they continue using it and forget that there is slash and that is a disbalanced game mechanics. To balance such a delicate mechanics the timing on stabs and slashes should be reduced by a few milliseconds. JUST enough so the it an equal balance between stab and slash. that balance will give new players a n ability to experiment and develop their own style of play. an tell you the whole lection about how diffren players use different mechanics and how which are just slightly disbalanced can cause the whole game to change.


Ohh about weed. I never smoked weed and never will, I prefer to keep my mind clear when I do work.
And please don't tell about your problems in public , ok?