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Ability To Attack/Defend While Carrying a KEG

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by LostPix, Aug 9, 2013.

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Should Knights Be Able to Attack and Defend or just Defend?

  1. Attack and Defend

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  2. Defend

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  3. Neither

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  1. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    Since new update today B844 objects are now attached to the backs of characters, the keg is being carried on the back but it limits the ability to defend/attack while carrying it and you have to drop the keg first, I suggest having ability to shield and attack normally as the battles always get fast and confusing for many people and I don't think most pay attention to anything else and even to defend the keg carrier, if it's not a good idea then I suggest to at least be able to use shield.

    I also wanted to suggest to move the boulder to the back of the character just like the keg.
     
  2. Monsteri

    Monsteri Slower Than Light Tester

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    I'm fine with keg carriers being able to attack and shield, since the keg slows you down anyway which makes you an easy target.

    I don't agree with the boulder thing though, it would make crushing people immensely harder without an added speed boost, and then it would look just silly.
     
  3. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    I just meant to change the position of the boulder and that's all, it kinda blocks the vision and you can't see if enemy knight charges the attack. :B):
     
  4. H4ZExVoltage

    H4ZExVoltage Catapult Fodder

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    Especially considering that you carry it on your back now, attacking and defending makes perfect sense :D
     
  5. Tsilliev

    Tsilliev Haxor

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    I chose defend, because I was abusing this feature a lot, I was lighting the keg putting it in my inventory, and they do not see me carrying keg until it is too late, or if they see me, they come and I kill them, so I think it is slightly op, I would like to see how it is only with defending, but if I have to choose from active or passive while holding a keg I would vote active, being able to fight back while wearing a keg, because right now kegs are used only, when enemy team is killed and is respawning atm, so they are still used, but much less.
    I remember I was making like 4 keg factories, before the 5-6 factory restriction xD I pick up keg, I go and pawn their defenses, if I die I respawn and repeat :D
     
  6. Jlordo

    Jlordo Nobody Donator

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    The thing is, with that bug it acted like you didn't even have a keg. Now that its on your back, you are far slower and clumsier, which balances it out. So I chose Attack and defend.
     
  7. Vermilicious

    Vermilicious Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    The keg is such a powerful weapon that it has to have some drawbacks. I think it's fine that you can't attack while you carry it. It makes sense too - carrying a big thing requires both hands, and in the middle of battle that's very very risky. But the rewards are potentially great.

    Edit: So that's a NO/NEITHER from me (you left that option out from the vote)
     
  8. Boxpipe

    Boxpipe single, female, lawyer

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    This vote is bias! No option to let me vote for "Bash enemy in face with keg".
     
  9. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    The keg is being carried on back now so hands are free, please read.
     
  10. Boxpipe

    Boxpipe single, female, lawyer

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    Hands are obviously not free if he is unable to do any actions requiring his hands.
     
  11. Tsilliev

    Tsilliev Haxor

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    Here is the question...

    Must you defeat the enemy so you can use kegs afterwards? Does this mean that kegs are absolute until you defeat the enemy for a brief time, pick up keg, and deliver it to the enemy lines, where they must still be immobilized or its your team's responsibility to defend you ( I haven't seen that yet happening :D)

    Or you can bring keg at any time, you can defend and attack with it, but its the enemies team responsibility to ensure the safety of their defenses.
     
  12. amgtree

    amgtree Haxor

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    If you think about it if a knight could attack/defend it would make a team absolutely useless and there would one man jihading armies. You should be at a disadvantage because it should require teamwork to successfully move up and crush defenses.
    I believe it should be defend only so a knight could protect him self when the fluster cuck battle was going on when the team was pushing up. Also they shouldn't be able to break a keg if your holding it.
     
  13. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    Because other team gets their ass kicked by one knight is entirely their fault for being bad, also you are still slowed down when you carry kegs.
     
  14. amgtree

    amgtree Haxor

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    Still kag is a game about team work so people need to stick in a group to get stuff done. I don't even think that they need to change anything about the kegs. After a few rounds I realize they work just fine when you have your team working together. I never would think kag would be around the one man army stuff and having them attack would do just the thing

    You should also play more of beta if you want to suggest things that would change certain elements drastically.
     
  15. LostPix

    LostPix Base Burner

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    How is this going to cause any imbalance explain it to me, you are already being slowed down by the keg and you can't jump as high while carrying it. So far you keep looking for some unrealistic excuse such as that one at the bottom of your post that I should play more of the beta, that's the worst thing you could possibly say at this moment, when I browse the forums I constantly see new beta players post things that most of us don't even notice because they just started playing with fresh point of view on it, so how could you say that I should play it more, the fact you play something more you become used to it and used to the mechanics that are present, maybe you should stop playing all day long and take a step back to get fresh view onto things, so don't give me that crap.
     
  16. Rayne

    Rayne ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester

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    having the ability to attack while holding a keg would be imba imo, but shielding while holding it could be good
     
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  17. Hawxx

    Hawxx Bison Rider

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    You can jab while holding a keg, it's most definitely a bug but what you do is you hold a keg and when near an enemy just click. It will jab but there's no animation.
     
  18. Raelian

    Raelian Bison Rider

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    Neither. Kegs are already powerful, let people learn to defend their keg carrier instead of simplifying everything to the point that you don't even need the slightest bit of teamwork or forethought. So what if it makes things a bit more difficult? It's a ~team~ based game, so let people learn to do a bit of team work instead of grabbing the keg and going kamikaze one after the other like a bunch of lemmings.
     
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  19. paradoxicalenigma

    paradoxicalenigma Arsonist

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    I have to say that I like the keg carrier the way he is. Blocking while having a keg will put you in a huge advantage, and being able to jab while carrying it will just be op. One dude would be able to take on an entire team if he had this ability. I imagine keg carriers in KAG to be like the kamikaze orcs in Lord of the Rings.

    The keg is so destructive, and to counterbalance this we made the keg carrier vulnerable. Otherwise, why not always have a keg on your back when you have the chance? You will get some kills while fighting and in death.
     
  20. Yagger

    Yagger Kouji's bitch 5eva Staff Alumni Tester
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    not beig able to attack / defend while carrying a keg emphasizes teamwork. you're supposed to be squishy since you're carrying a huge barrel of fun. simplifying it so you can attack and defend while carrying the keg without your team is pandering to plebs.
     
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