[893] Why Is Bedrock Indestructible?

I don't know if it's intentional or not, but in the latest build, I can't destroy bedrock. Bombs, kegs, arrows--nothing worked. If this is a bug, I'm assuming it's the same one that makes doors invulnerable to kegs. But if it's intentional game design, that's really shitty and needs to be reverted.

 

I'm fine with there being an indestructible block, but removing a hard-to-destroy block to "create" that block and using it as a crutch on a bunch of maps is (at least with the current batch of maps) poor design.

Don't get me wrong, there are times to use (nigh) indestructible blocks: the two tower map that Action used to have was great for this. The current maps, however, are worse off for it.

 

Yeah pit maps ftw


Game design 101

 

Maybe you should nerf explosions a bit then or, like in classic, make explosive-spam harder, if you think the maps are becoming cratervilles every game.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 25, 2013, Original Post Date: Sep 25, 2013 ---

I mean if someone asked me "Hey Beelzebub, how could we slow down the rate of bomb craters being created?" I might answer "Maybe don't give everyone a free bomb every time they start for having a military supply shop, dummy."

 

You could definitely blow up bedrock in earlier versions of Beta like you could in Classic.

 

In classic i thought bombs don't affect the bedrock at the bottome of a tent *Remeber tent fighting? We can't hit each other*. But bedrocks outside of a tent can be broken with a bomb*i don't know about it now*

 

--Empty servers reset the map, or at least some Classic servers do that when empty
--You have to have more than 1 person for the game to start and bombs to be purchasable in Classic
--If the server has a timer, when that runs out it resets anyway
--You can vote to reset the map

Speaking of voting, it's impossible to votekick people in Beta. That's dumb. There are still people that need to be votekicked just like in Classic. AFKers and griefers play both games, but there are far fewer admins (and regular players) in Beta and no option for regular players to deal with either of them.

 

I like classic more than beta as well, (even though, i'm not premium, i've played beta before through a diffrent source) but on some servers like the zombie survival server where you survive against other non-premium zombie players that was out like a month ago, bedrock was REALLY annoying. Sometimes it still is on servers like Kami CTF/action unlimited/bc flatmaps wen i'm trying to make a tunnel but end up getting trapped in my tracks at every edge because of bedrock

 

bedrock was made invulnerable to anything for the reason of stopping botomless pits on the map
this problem was consisant and annoying and it ruined many games. nothing needs to be changed.

 

This same problem appeared at the beginning of KAG classic. You know why? Because everyone and their mother has explosives upon spawning. You know what was done? Bombs were made harder to get. Maybe, just maybe, instead of breaking all the maps because they weren't designed to have invincible bedrock, the ease of acquisition for explosives could be cut back a bit.

But hey, go ahead and invent a bad solution for a problem already solved.

 

Like you said, just add a block that is really hard to destroy, like old bedrock. Problem solved.

 

There have actually been several reason to why they made bedrock indestructible.
First reason being they want to let people have a good many bombs if they want them and put the work into getting them.
Second reason being during longer matches the landscapes would become destroyed and full of extremely deep pits and frustrating to traverse, with the indestructible bedrock in place on maps the landscape can still be destroyed but wont become extremely deep pits!
Third reason is to give the game an indestructible block, extremely useful for mapmaking for the most part, and useful in challenge maps.
Fourth reason is to prevent mass map-length tunneling, what a good few people including myself find to be the worst thing and for me ruins my mood completely while playing!

Probably other reasons, but those are the four I could think of right off the top of my head!

 

Hmm what about not making dirt butter and bombs not having butter knifes as shrapnel. Also the current ctf maps (besides maybe one map) suck a**. Y YU NO MACY MAP CUMINTY MAP MAKERS!