What's the deal with CTF

It's less an issue of map size and more an case of needing to refine map design & flag placement. If you'd like to come up with better maps, please do. Any truly great maps that have popular support with the community will likely be added to the vanilla out-of-the-box map cycle. ;)

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Also, welcome to the forums. Do have a look around while you're here, as there are some really great resources for your average player. :)

 

Fair enough; maps that don't give you enough space & time to build stuff around your flags obviously need reworking. That said, the 2 weeks you mention didn't really go into making/testing maps; the focus was on just trying to get things out asap so that the community could play ctf and (ideally) start to come up with great map designs. I think your comment about needing some decent water maps is spot on and if you have any kind of creative flair then I'd highly recommend you make a few and head to the maps section (https://forum.kag2d.com/forums/maps.90/) and share them with others, as this should help inspire them to try making a few water maps too. ;)

Also, glad you decided to post. It's more fun for everyone when both sides are communicating. :)

 

Note that literally all of those maps were made by community members, their names are in the filename of the map and you can freely berate them about it :^) I think the point of those forward flags is to provide an opportunistic point where you can make quick caps from if you can hold it, but I've never seen that happen except in steamroll events.

As FBB says, I feel this is much more of a map issue than a gamemode design issue.

 

I agree that CTF's problems mostly stem from map design/layout, but it isn't fixed by just making more maps. Server owners, administrators and staff need to take steps to install those maps which are currently largely ignored in the resource section. I can personally count on one hand the amount of times I have played on a non-official map and this isn't because the map looked terrible and I didn't want to join the server its because there is simply nobody hosting them.

 

You could also, you know, forward them to us so we can patch them into default servers, and provide feedback on exactly which currently included community maps need removing or changing so that the default server situation can be improved.

 

(ideally in one thread rather than as 500 PMs to me that will get buried among such classics as PLS INCLUDE THIS HAT PLSSSS and UNBAND ME ADMIN I NO GRIF)

 

Here: https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/default-ctf-maps.16427/