[954] Knight proof shops.

note: it would actually be better to remove the bottom three layers of the structure, so the builder shop is on the floor. this way, it is harder to collapse.

advantages:
- knights cannot get to the knight shop
- is not resource heavy (168 stone, 600 wood)
- easy to build
- can be placed almost anywhere.

disadvantages
- idk... you tell me.

EDIT: to center the workshops, you need to either stand on the edge of the trap block, or place a block in the center.

 

I like it :)

Here is a cheaper alternative, (it costs less stone and is easier to build):

 

if you want to get into cutting edges, you can have 1 bridge on level instead of 2. just put between those 2 and its actually idiotproof.

ofc you can cut more edges than that but it would require changing entire design

 

There is one major flaw with this structure, and that goes into a chapter I just wrote in my builder guide. That flaw is that it's extremely inefficient for those knights who need to rush to the front lines after grabbing bombs. Now they have to climb this tower which takes 3-7 seconds (Longer if mental retardation exists) instead of running to a ground level shop, purchasing bombs, and racing through.

Now, if this were near a front-line tower, I could see it being very useful.

 

you'd be surprised how many kag players can't jump onto one block on their first try. But yeah, those are probably better.

I honestly think the time and resources gained from building the trapdoor model outweighs that tiny flaw.
A wise kag builder once said: "Being a good builder is all about effectively spending your resources. You have to build using the least amount possible on the right place for the biggest impact."

You can spend all the time and resources to encase your knight workshops in stone, but that's a waste.

I rest my case.

 

I like your shop implementation a lot more, that is both safe, cost-effective, and easy to access. Great work, I'll be sure and add that to my guide.

 

To the people who are noting the inconvenience of the jumping involved
Make a team friendly/enemy hateful staircase/ladder. Simple as that.
One thing I don't like is how it's such a disposable building. I think if it were possible to reinforce it a little bit, without hindering the intention of it, that would make it more of a permanent tower.

 

The point of this is that it's cheap.

 

I've actually already perfected this technique.

1. Make a 5 tall stone backwall.


2. On the 4th tile, put a trap block.
3. On the 6th tile (Above the backwall) place another trap block.


4. Build knight shop.


5. Extend the backwall to the left of the 6th trap block by one tile, then leave a 1 tile gap and place another trap tile. It will look like this ingame:



What's different about this compared to the other methods in this thread?

1. The shop is a hefty 6+ tiles up, making it nigh-impossible to get to unless there's a high surface nearby a knight can leap up to it from (And even then you need split second reactions to buy anything, though I've seen people do it).
2. The tiles spread out like this save you resources and allow knights more surface area to climb them.
3. The last tile at the top gives knights something sturdier to step on so they don't fall off in the middle of buying shit.
4. The gap between the two top trab blocks are so that if an enemy knight tosses a bomb at your creation, it will have a gap and sides to fall through.

Trust me, it's not getting any better than this, aside from even more backwall.

 

Spoiler: 7 tiles above the ground, 30 stone less

I've actually already perfected this technique in 80 seconds it took me to launch KAG and go sandbox.
Trust me, it's not getting any better than this, aside from even more backwall.

 

That looks awkward to build considering the middle of the shop. Did you hop up to make it?

 

I still say this disign is the only way possible to protect your shops!

Spoiler

Jokes about high security aside, I do like some of these designs and might try and use them at some point, it does frustrate me that we need to use odd tricks like this but oh well...whatever works!

 

^that is the epitome of awesomeness.

 

@Ej yeah wouldnt you need to destroy a block where your head is located to plant the shop there? It seems more effective in that any retard can jump into that catchers mitt instead of slip off like in klok's. i think i prefer kloks simply because you dont have to jump over a tile to continue on your path. the flat platform is more streamlined

 

whats with the defense rally? im critiquing a design like this section of the forum is meant for. i was in no way demeaning his design by calling it a catchers mitt nor do i care how he reacts to what i say about his design. My opinion is simply that I dont think its as efficient to be forced to jump over an extra block with the trade-off being that its easier to stick your landing on the platform.

 

didnt notice the 1 less trap block. thats nice. you do need to jump over because assuming you place the mitt in front of your spawn youre going to want to keep moving in that direction. im convinced with the one less trap block though

 

Love it. I've been using this method in every game (when another builder doesn't beat me to placing a shop). I haven't had a single person complain about it, or say it's hard to get to.