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Mmmmmmm... DRAGONS

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by SamuraiCupcake, Oct 23, 2013.

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  1. SamuraiCupcake

    SamuraiCupcake Builder Stabber

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    Hey guys and girls, I just had an idea for KAG and I just HAD to post it here. I know its a lot of work implementing stuff, but I thought it looked awesome in my head.

    I guess this kinda stems from the bull and shark riding that's sort of present at the moment. Also been playing a lot of Monster Hunter. What if there was a dragon in the map, a neutral NPC at the beginning. Disturb him and he'll annihilate you with his breath. However, bring him enough gold, presenting it to his cave, and he'll help!

    He'll allow one or two of your team only to ride on his back, and he'll go towards the enemy and rain fire on them! As we've admired thanks to fire arrows, he'll ravage wooden buildings but leave stone intact. His fire will also deal continuous damage, which knights can guard. If you press down it will signal the dragon to land, and space will make him take off again (the rest is done by his AI). On ground he will also do a claw attack, which has huge knockback, like the zombie knight. After some time, he will get tired, take off and retreat to his lair (it could be made of bedrock so it doesn't get dug out), requiring a bribe again to work.

    It would give a lot of value to gold, since the gold would get piled up in his cave. If some knights feel up for it and need the gold for some boat or artillery shops/research, they could try to go slay it. Archers would also be decent at attacking it when it flies, if its breath doesn't melt the arrows. Teams would also race to get the most gold to get first dibs at the dragon's help.

    And what's more medieval than dragons? Anyway there's a few ideas from the top of my head. If its not possible, that's okay. Just imagine how cool it would be! :)

    Example :
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    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    Its a ok idea, but do you really think it would be easily implemented into the game? Plus increased lag, glitches, and what not.
     
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  3. Guitarman

    Guitarman Haxor Tester Official Server Admin

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    Someone with the know how and the drive to do could always just mod it into the game.
     
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  4. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    But would you like it on a legit server, or a individual modded one.
     
  5. SamuraiCupcake

    SamuraiCupcake Builder Stabber

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    Optimization is always a problem, but its a slow big entity like the boat, and I haven't seen any problems with the boat.

    What generally causes the most lag are things that affect many other things simultaneously. Examples are the falling rocks, since each individual rock goes an a randomly generated path, and each rock impact makes the game calculate collision results. Big explosions also affect many things all at once, so stutter occurs.

    The dragon could be fairly simple, with a simple walk cycle, take off/land, wing flapping, claw and fire breating animations. The fire could have a short range so as to limit lag. He would essentially be a drop ship in utility.
     
  6. Duplolas

    Duplolas So Sad

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    Wings flapping + Fire + Burning Structures + Mapping of the actual Fire Breath + The movement of the dragon + everything else. Still think it would be fairly simple?

    And I'm sorry I am putting your idea down so much. I really think it would be a cool thing to do, I just really don't see how it could ever really be added to the game successfully.
     
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  7. Guitarman

    Guitarman Haxor Tester Official Server Admin

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    I'm going to assume you're using 'legit' in place of 'vanilla'. Someone could mod a dragon, start a server and have everything completely standard except the dragons. It would be exactly the same as if dragons were part of the game. Of course, you've got to find someone who can mimic Geti's art style pretty closely. I've seen that done a few times already though, so that wouldn't be too much a problem.
     
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  8. CookieEpic

    CookieEpic Shopkeep Stealer

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    I like this idea. I can already imagine it ingame- however...

    The dragon needs a set HP, and the amount of gold should be pretty high for something so game breaking :eek:
     
  9. SamuraiCupcake

    SamuraiCupcake Builder Stabber

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    I wouldn't go as far as say he'd break the game. You have to pay for his services, and he's a neutral party like the sharks or bulls. Leave him alone and he won't affect the game at all... unless you steal his gold... or you just happen to have a huge pile of gold just lying around...

    He'd also always be in the middle of the map, chilling in his cave, and I guess it would be a race to find gold to get to the dragon first! Would bring a whole new meaning to King Arthur's GOLD.

    There would still be counters for this strategy though : dropping rocks or shooting balista or cata shots from the top of your defending tower should do the job nicely. Helllll yeah.
     
  10. Warren2997

    Warren2997 Shipwright

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    I LOVE THIS!!! I think its a brillent idea and plus hardly anyone cares about the gold part in KAG so they just say its King Arthur's Something and then finaly some one would say its King Arthur's :gold::gold_mat::gold_bullion::gold_b:!
     
  11. Microsoft

    Microsoft Catapult Fodder

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    The most likely thing to mod is the hot air ballon. We can make the dragon fly. And if it flies to high i gets a heart attack.
     
  12. JoshTG

    JoshTG Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    No, it would be a great mod, or a bonus game mode. NOT in every mode/server/etc
     
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  13. JaniKutscher

    JaniKutscher Builder Fan Donator

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    Nah i dont think that would be great,
    it would destroy the game.
     
  14. goodyman8

    goodyman8 Bison Rider

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    Could be done as a reincarnation of the gold hunt gamemode.(if that's what its called).
    Gather most gold and whoever has the most gold within a time limit can get the one dragon to murder the other team with.
    Wings flapping would just be switching frames on the sprite, fire is mostly already done, burning structures doesn't even have to be done.
    Only problem I see (and I'm no expert) would be getting the blob itself to spawn and coding different modes/attacks for it like he wants.
     
  15. bru-jaz

    bru-jaz Haxor

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    Any ways, whereas nobody seems to mod it, you can forget it for a while.

    (and i already think about it) Flyer dragon, water dragon and fire dragon. Flying maps where the castles are in the air and there's no floor (like some maps in the alpha)
     
  16. vik

    vik THD Team THD Team Tester

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    This is such a bad idea, it would wreck everyone instantly, winning the game by having the dragon making the whole game a gold race it won't add any complexity to the game only more rage and making it dumb.

    Not to mention all the bugs, instability, and such
     
  17. Bravo_4

    Bravo_4 Catapult Fodder

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    This is beginning to sound like a Gamemode, or Mod only type thing. Dragon's Horde sounds like a fairly solid ideal of pve.
     
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