Should the Default Maximum Ping Be Lower?

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I often notice players on servers that have over 200 ping. After wondering why they don't get pingbanned, I downloaded the KAG server files and looked at the default configuration file. The max ping is 450 by default. Even Australians on American servers and Americans on Australian servers typically have no higher than 266 ping, so the only way to get pingbanned is by spiking really bad. I understand this may have been the point, so that players can play on any server in the world assuming their ping doesn't spike, but at 200+ ping players are so laggy that they teleport. At 133+ strange things occasionally happen and slash timing is completely different for both the players with good ping who are forced to fight the lagger, and for the lagger who has to fight players with low ping. I'm not saying the max ping should be 133 by default, but lowering it from 450 to maybe 233 would be a nice touch to KAG to deal with lag on servers. It's true that there is often server lag, which will hopefully be better after Geti adds multithreading support, but fighting lag at the player level is a good start. With a lower max ping by default on servers, players will start playing on local servers more often, and as a result, most players will have similar ping. There is no reason a European server should have ten American players and ten European players, while an American server has ten European players and ten American players. Lowering the max ping to force players to play on local servers would improve the gameplay experience for everyone.

 

too often it happens where i find myself playing on a us server fighting people from eu and aus. its extremely annoying to deal with and i feel this change is very needed in order to make kag more enjoyable when it comes to lag.

 

I agree. I manually kick players when their ping is high enough that it affects other players during combat. It's not fair to have them "teleporting" around you.

 

I believe it's /sv_maxping <#> if I'm not mistaken. I think he was talking about on the official servers where everything is default.

 

You've already identified that spiking needs to be accounted for. If you lower the limit, you also increase the ease and frequency at which typically low-pinged players are going to be pingbanned when they just hit a rough spike.

Might be the lesser of two evils to your eyes but I don't think so.

 

is this like the new sequel to the half life 3 jokes

 

Brilly plays with any ping on any server, lowering the default max ping is unacceptable, make it higher.

 

You wouldn't think the same way if you actually paid for a server and looking at it running empty because you wanna play with 66 ping people only. Things are way different if you see them from owner's prespective.

 

Not sure 66 ping is sustainable with internationals from Australium, Canadida, Amerimans, and the UE.

 

Dude, even 300ms ping is pushing it for internationals.

 

What's the point of further dividing an already small, and divided gaming community? (You only increase the number of empty, or sparsely populated servers which are no fun)
It is said again, and again: The issue of ping is a problem to those with the bad ping; they are comparably disadvantaged to those with better ping. Especially since I've lost my touch with ping bias, and reduced shield arcs has only made it worse.
Would you prefer a 3v4 with forced low ping, or 12v12+ with the network minimum standard?

 

Latency delays the server-client response, allowing low latency players to snipe high latency players. Recall this is a game with no lag compensation. So what is the problem then? A lot of the gameplay is based off of playing off beat from other players. People with different pings are no different, but with high ping players being disadvantaged in server-client response rates. I see no reason why you complain about low on high, good on bad, when it's effectively the same when you have two players running on different timings.

Latency is a non-issue; there is no reason to lower the max ping unless you want to decrease your server population. (A huge portion of the player experience is the amount of players playing along side of you, and, also how much a server owner is getting out of their investment.)
Holistically, a global lowering of the minimum would kick out a large amount of players from an already tiny player base. (The above issue would be expanded, and the community would probably suffer from the exodus.)

 

I find, more often than not, that that is not the case. Hits, and slashes resolve based on the information on hand, not what information has yet to come in. There is no lag compensation.