BUILD 1215 - Rebalance and Fix Central

This thread really fucking pisses me off.

I had to read that old time forum members are not loyal to the game.
After all I endured. I spent 3 years playing this game, moderating this site, hosting tournaments, organizing clan wars, helping with testing.
3 years and last 6 or so months I had to force myself to play KAG at all because I just didn't like the game. There have been tons of build I hated. And I still played all of them more than I should have.

And you, you fucking steamies, decide to all leave because of 1 patch you don't agree with and then proceed to call all of us, who stayed with this game and the community through good and bad days "not loyal"?
You don't fucking know what loyal means

Get of your fucking high horse, good weather friends, and then please proceed to fuck off and never come back if you want to act like this.

 

And i don't understand why they are crying...

Yes, no more op knight, yes, game is more balanced. don't see any problems.
You think it was funny to see a lone knight fucking all our defenses? Now, you need your team to win, so, stop crying, it's not fucking call of duty. there is 3 classes, use them.

 

you think what ive been doing you idiot?
i simply never threatened a ragequit like a 5yo

edit: werent you supposed to leave the game? please do it?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

This game is the developer's baby, they've put their sweat and blood into it. The devs will do what the devs want to do, of course that doesn't mean that community feedback isn't wanted or that community feedback doesn't change anything -but in the end it's up to the people designing the games, not the people who play them.

No one is really solving anything by getting in a tiff with each other and no one is really here to have their opinions changed it seems :l (not that writing this solves anything either).

 

MFW still arguing while geti wont revert anything becauze its gud

 

People are being very over reactive considering it has been hardly 24 hours. You need to be a little more patient instead of just going off what you have encountered in first 3 games of playing, especially since this build is quite a game changer.
The problem is people care far too much about their K : D ratio rather than team work and capping the flag (I am even guilty of this and I play archer), just because you can't cut through hoards of enemies with spamming slash any more doesn't mean the game is 'ruined' you have to adapt to these changes and that doesn't happen in the first few games of playing.

Since playing I have seen significant increase in teamwork, I've seen others and myself helping knights advance using arrow ladders (something you rarely see used until this update) and blowing wholes into towers/walls that are too big with bomb arrows etc.
Builders have been going up front more often to help the team advance, instead of minecrafting at the back of the base.
Knights have actually been using their shields as ladders too, giving other knights step ups over walls.
This is happening because knights cannot advance over every enemy tower they see, the game actually needs all three classes now to win the game instead of just a couple of good knights. :0)

Honestly the community doesn't need people who give up on the devs after a single build that they think is bad, we're here to give feedback and help improve the game. Not threatening to leave unless it is reverted, that's just immature.

 

Aurora for president please.

 

is there even any point to this discussion anymore? it's just people yelling how KAG is shit and then the people who actually understand what's good for the game telling them to fuck off, plus there's barely any actual feedback on the build cause everyone gets sucked into this argument

 

No one seems to understand that playing offensive, (FULL REK MODE OH YEA BABY A TRIPLE) isnt an option anymore. the game is now more geared towards playing smartly and defensively as knight and helping out the team. the players that want to leave i can tell were the offensive types that just liked rushing in and killing everything instantly without trying to protect yourself. As long as you actually try to relearn the game instead of flipping out because its different then maybe there wouldn't be all of this drama...

 

50,000 was an example. The fact is that while it wouldn't hurt to get more players, we're pretty fine in terms of how many people we have playing. It's not like it's the same 200 to 300 people all day. People alternate based on their own personal schedule, and for an indie game we have a good base built up. Some newbies, and some oldies, just wish to bitch because it's not COD sized.

 

I've got to say, I really like the changes that happened, because previously, it was all about momentum, and I sucked playing that way. :P. There is a lot bigger emphasis on actually knowing what to do, when to move away, and forward, as opposed to. SLASH JUMP FORWARD SLASH DOUBLE SLASH YES REKTTT!

 

as someone who pretty much mastered the knight, before this update, I can actually say that so far its not so bad. I havent really played that much yet but well see. But first impressions are ok!

 

Hell this isn't even that true. I can still mow down a hoard of steamies and occasionally a zen or two here and there the same as I did before this build.

Hey guys, do you even know how to balance? Let's say that Geti nerfs knight. Let's say slash deals .5 heart dmg and a stab deals 4 damage. This is still balanced because every knight on the field has the same attack and they can all stab spam. Sure, it's not fair for archers and builders, but for the sake of knight v knight combat, it's still balanced because all knights have the same attack arsenal. What wouldn't be balanced is if geti made a knight gain .5 dmg to both attacks after every kill and they also regenerated life like a vampire whenever they killed someone. After a while the knight who had killed 10 guys would be immortal and invincible, and he would have a massive advantage over every other knight that spawned in. That's bad, this build is not bad.

Before this build, slash killed everything. After this build, slash still kills fucking everything. I had my reservations when I saw this build, I don't like the clunky forward wall-climb mechanics atm, but this is by far the best build I've played yet. By far.

 

Build 1215 a.k.a. KAG Classic 2.0

Now with increased perks to jab spamming.

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So really quick, knight shield glide is now no longer infinite to be fair to the rest of classes who also apparently have a shield glide.

I kinda thought the shield glide was specific to knight. That, it was one of its abilities.

Builder can build.

Archer can grapple (which btw can save you from giant drops)

Knight can infinitely shield glide... oh wait.

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I would go into other nit picks of this update, but I really don't want to spend the time pointing out the obvious flaws that many others can see.

Overall, I think this update is not "Rough", it is just sloppy. Don't put out updates and makes promises for things you know you aren't ready for. Don't become like Warz / Infection: Survivor Stories.

And just because you give warning that the update will be "rough", doesn't make it ok to make such changes.

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Oh, but thanks for implementing the ability to rebind emotes like I suggested a few months ago. It really helps get over the fact that you are trying to make KAG a super competitive MLG 360 No Scope #420Blaze it game, instead of making it a fun game that everyone enjoys playing.

Remember back when KAG was chaotic as hell? Explosions everywhere. Blood and Body Parts flying all over the place? I do. Thats the KAG I want back, not a game stuck in constant "BALANCE" changes like it is now.

Theres a reason why the "Balance" category on the forums says this:

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I have more experience suggesting bad ideas than anyone else here, so don't take lightly what I say. What is happening to KAG is ruining it.

But of course, all is for not, the shit stained slope KAG's gameplay is sliding down has no way of getting back up it. A new game will come out and replace it before the game becomes fun again.

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/rant

- Love Duplo, Ex-Suggestion Maker and KAG Player.