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Portal to other server & hidden server

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by igigor, Jan 10, 2015.

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  1. igigor

    igigor Builder Stabber

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    Add portals to connect to another server during the game (particularly for RP server). Do not clutter the map and have a larger world.
    Adding hidden servers functionality could help to avoid overloading the server list.
    portal&hidden.png
     
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  2. wilpin7

    wilpin7 Lewd~ Donator
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    That would require the servers who want to use that feature to host quite a lot of servers, and I heard that hosting servers isn't an easy thing to do. Wouldn't it be more convenient/easy to have a single server with multiple areas? Think Save The Princess, once you reach the end of one area you get to the next, or something like that. Maybe with a map that shows each area and their buildings, maybe with the amount of red/blue players on it. Having hidden servers in general could be a nice thing, so the clan wars/kag world cup servers wouldn't have to be visible all the time.
     
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  3. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    This is already do-able with the CNet connection functions, though they haven't been tried out much iirc. This would be a good way for @Aphelion for example to spread out the load on his server and avoid needing so many blobs in-game.
     
  4. ccnc

    ccnc Catapult Fodder

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    would be very interesting as you could make 'eternal' games similar to how Planetside 2 works (except that one day ressources will be all used up)
    Another stuff
    -Overworld/Dungeons
    -in-ingame server browser (a lobby for players)

    but the more I think about it the less is the cost-benefit ratio (work-benefit) you can get from it. You can split the processing on multiple servers but you still need the processing power and even if you have the server infrastructure you also need to fill your linked servers with content and players or your machination will be waste of time (not forgetting the code for the hopefully ungriefable or indestructible server portals).
     
  5. Vermilicious

    Vermilicious Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    I like this idea. It opens up possibilities for more social, MMO-like uses. Host your own little sandbox hub containing portals to your favorite servers, or your friend's hubs. I'm not sure how many would do it though.
     
  6. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    TBH it's actually a really good way to spread processing power out though as each instance is bound to one core only. You could limit each server to 16 slots or fewer very easily and keep processing low. Code for indestructible and unbuildable portals is as easy as adding a no build zone over the top :)
     
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  7. ccnc

    ccnc Catapult Fodder

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    You have to know.

    this was just a marginal note for completion. Defining the serverportal as a constant part of the map is the easiest solution but also the most boring imho. The most problematic thing about that linked-server constellation are (perhaps sandbox is the exception) content/player.
    Is it worth linking only 2 game-servers? What about 10 gameservers with 20 players overall? I just looked at the big picture.
    Let's talk about that after KAG2 is released (with a new big playerbase and great multicore/gpu computation).

    If you go by the idea (your picture) you had to sync the gamemode status and player balance over all servers. I guess your core idea is to make a battlefield with two fronts and taking over continents (gameserver), yes? scale down the idea with what's already possible and what you get is this.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Fernegulus

    Fernegulus Bison Rider

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    We're probably doing that with KARPS

    edit: oh uh gatu lieks

    To topic: Also, the thing is that it's much less laggy, but, yeah right, find a guy to host 8 servers for you (or 8 guys who will host one each)
     
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  9. LightTab2

    LightTab2 Drill Rusher
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    If I remember good, there was a problem with CNet function. Has it been fixed yet?

    EDIT: What'd be with syncing to each other server?
     
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  10. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Re: connection - if there are issues, you need to let us know so we can debug them.

    Re: sync - TCPR app would be easiest as then you can perform the sync however you like (could just be same tcpr app connected to a bunch of different servers and mirroring "sync" commands between them)
     
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  11. FuzzyBlueBaron

    FuzzyBlueBaron Warm, Caring, Benign, Good and Kind Philanthrope Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester
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    iirc, there was some discussion of this back in 2012. I even posted a pic of how one could have a re-hash of Overworld; funny how these ideas come up again. ::):

    {edit}
    Found it!
    https://forum.kag2d.com/posts/115169/
     
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  12. LightTab2

    LightTab2 Drill Rusher
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    If server(1) has 64 slots, hidden server(2) must have also 64 slots. But if people join both servers and both'll be full, they won't be able to get forward or backward the "regions" (servers ofc). So I recommend to add in JoinCoreHooks.as script that'll calculate numer of playing players and prevent joining them, if s1 + s2 >64. There also must be a sync between both servers, every tick.
     
  13. Geti

    Geti Please avoid PMing me (poke a mod instead) THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    Doesn't need to be every tick, just needs events posted to all servers when players change, easily enough accomplished with a TCPR link between them all :)
    However, you're right in identifying that there'd be a lot to consider with # of slots, travelling between areas, syncing player's stats between servers and so forth. It's not a small task but it's also something I'm surprised to have seen so little work on, as it's one of the first things the community got excited about with modding, as FBB pointed out.
     
  14. FuzzyBlueBaron

    FuzzyBlueBaron Warm, Caring, Benign, Good and Kind Philanthrope Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester
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    Practically #1 on my list of "things I will come back and do once I have the skills to actually pull it off".

    RIP until that day, Overworld... :QQ:
     
  15. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    Bet it wouldn't be too difficult with KScript2.
     
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