Knights being able to mine stone

I think this was in classic (cant remember) but i think its a good idea to allow knights to be able to dig and collect stone. Once they have mined some stone they are able to bring it back to either a defensive builder or an offensive builder who is unable to collect the stone himself. This would make knights less idle and more productive, for example, you go to the front lines and are faced with a huge tall tower with no bombs and no money to buy the bombs. Rather than just staring at the tower and waiting for your enemies to come out you could just dig a little bit of stone (maybe 30-40 stone or so) and give it to an offensive builder. To those of you thinking its just too easy and op, perhaps so, but lets not forget you expose yourself to archers one you start digging so it could be a case of 20 stone for a loss of a heart or two.
Added on suggestions to the suggestion

• Maybe make it that when a knight digs stone he only gains 50% of it (bit like a drill)
• Possibly make it not only for stone but for trees

 

Maybe bring back drills for knights?
And allow it to collect stone?

 

Both of those ideas would make knight OP. Knight is pretty much perfect as it is, just leave it be imo.

 

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Oh man this idea is garbage.

I don't even care about this game at all anymore and yet when I saw the title to this suggestion I had to do my duty to post.

Please stahp.

 

2 years later and you're still an autist and a cunt.

 

Cool, i see where you are coming from, but if i was a knight and was able to mine stone i would bring it to an offensive builder already building a tower, whilst he is building the tower you might be able to give him a 50 extra stone(i would only do this in the battlefield is quiet) thus an increase in your teams productivity. In fact i think we would see more teamwork between the knight and builder.

I'm not suggesting that a knight mine for 200 stone but rather just a little bit of stone that will save a builder precious seconds. If this suggestion were to go through and be a part of the game
1) i don't even think noobs in pub matches will know of this
2) if they come to learn of it, i think they will still go out and kill oncoming opponents

But for experienced knights who would know how to use this correctly i think it would/could be a vital tool for builders and knight

 

That's kind of the point, it would strengthen the role of knight even more which is bad imo. Knights can already hinder enemy builders a lot, and now they'd be able to go to the front and hack away at the precious stone supply. What's a builder gonna do, run out and stop him?
You're saying "noobs won't even know of this", how is that a good thing in a game with this steep a learning curve already?

I can't see this going any other way than imbalance the knight vs builder.

 

What if archers had this skill instead of knights? Just going to put that out there...

 

This is a tiny change and there is no reason not to implement it.

EDIT: That being said, the devs likely aren't going to bother with it. Just make it a mod and offer the scripts to devs, I think it'll have a good chance of getting implemented.

 

The builder's pickaxe doesn't even fucking work correctly 1/2 the time and we want to allow other classes to mine? Total bullcrap

Yes I get the whole "dont see it as a buff" but the reason not to implement it is because mining out in the open is suppose to be dangerous; a knight with a shield a sword stabbing at the ground would both be useless, stupid looking, and defeating the purpose of a fragile resource collecting builder

 

As a builder i wouldn't mine out in the open ever unless there was no one on the battlefield which is a rare occurrence. So yes it is dangerous to mine stone out in the open and you'll almost always die, even with cover almost all that is needed is a single bomb, so why not introduce something that will allow you to mine stone in the open. and usually places between mid and either blue or red flag is not really abundant in stone.

"fragile resource collecting", if i want mats im just gonna go back to the home tent, if i want wood i'm just gonna go to the saw and if i want stone i'm just gonna go the mine thats already set up at base that has plenty of stone. I almost never have a problem with collecting mats throughout the game, the only time i will is when its a stalemate thats been going for 2 hours and the map has been torn down due to keg drops until the ground becomes bedrock. That being said, if i wanting 30 stone quickly or it would be handy to have an extra 30 stone for something like back wall and a knight who has been idle on the battlefield brings me 30 stone this would be tremendous as i would be able to setup the back wall and go back to base with some assurance that that tower will have more of a chance of standing

And i don't understand what you mean by "builders pickaxe doesn't even fucking work correctly 1/2 the time". The only time it doesn't work for me is when im fighting which is understandable. The knight is not a resource collecting unit, so it would make sense that they could only gather resources like a drill would (except it would be at the pace of how fast they can jab)

 

I wouldn't want to see this mainly because I would hate not being able to pick up a bomb because I unknowingly auto-collected 2 stone.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 19, 2015, Original Post Date: Apr 19, 2015 ---

Also I hope giving knights the ability to use drills again was a joke. That shit was grade A cancer.

 

I get the idea of this and sure it could help out in some cases, but it just sounds too absurd to have knights able to dig stone.
I can only imagine how often we'll encounter:

• Knights just waiting for the enemies to attack while mining stone instead of pushing forward.
• A builder waiting for a push could've gotten twice the amount of stone out of the mine, the knights just dug out instead of pushing and allowing the builder to get the right timing when to get out there and build.
• Knights way more often choose to dig under the front-walls cause now they can gather the stone too.
• Beefiest character in the game with powerful slashes and shield now wielding drills? (Also digging same speed too?) Say goodbye to offensive builders in general...

I can only see this taking away the need of teamwork between classes... Let knights be knights.

Public matches aren't as competitive as they are simple games where all skill levels play together. Let's not target the direction of development to what could happen in a public match where there's way different skill levels rather than focusing on the real problem:

If you find yourself stranded outside the enemy wall then call for the builder or get an archer making arrow ladders or thirdly go builder yourself. I know that sometimes there's too many minecrafting builders etc. But it's public matches. You shouldn't expect every game to be the most well organized game in KAG history.
Just tell people what needs to be done and see if they listen, just watch the tone and often it'll go well. If not, well shit happens.