A new league by the community?

Okay, so for the past half a year+ we have no had a league for clans. Matches have been few and far between, and just as we managed to get "somewhere" with KCL, I feel like many things happened at once and it all went to shit.

Firstly, there was a lot of bickering and, in my opinion, some trolling, the KCL just turned into a tournament with no real reason and @SpideY came back with the hope of a MLK Season 2 which he said today will most likely not happen.

So, I think we should try again with less shitting on every detail, and less insulting, and more teamwork in order to make this a reality.

Here's some things I want to be begin with, all opinion, feel free to say "I don't want this" instead of just ignoring the whole league because of it, I just type with "X will happen" because it's easier for me:

• It should be ELO.
• I think we should incorporate forced matches somehow, however a lot of people disagree with this so maybe not.
• A clan war should be bo2.
• There should be a timer, if at the end of a timer it is a draw, the timer extends for 10 minutes, if it is still a draw, the match ends.
• Map pool will be decided by players suggesting a map, and a poll will be taken. A majority vote will be needed for the map to be added to the pool.
• There should be a rule to have map striking, but if clans do not want to do it, they don't have to. If one clan wants to do map striking, the other clan has to. Map striking is when each clan takes turns striking a map they do not want to play off. After all maps but one have been striked, the remaining map will be played.
• Intercontinental matches will be played like the following: EU vs US, one round EU, one round US - AUS vs US, one round AUS, one round US - EU vs AUS, both rounds played on a US server. Other matchups may vary, e.g. South American clans.
• All matches are 5v5, unless both clans agree to either a 4v4 or 6v6 matchup.
• We can have a thread to post clan wars in advance so they can be recorded or streamed potentially (not really sure why they would be streamed with such a small audience, people can just join the server and watch themselves).
• Blowjob ? Maybe we can have a custom blowjob mod where only non-"eye-burning" heads get put in?

Thoughts?

 

This should be put in the hands of one (or 2) person who really care about it. That person(s) word must be respected. Also he musnt go over previously agreed rules. This will prevent ever changing leagues and long lasting ones. Rules and deadlines must be strict and clans must accept certain amount of CWs in agreed time period. Either that or reliable voting system or something.

 

I think democracy is the way to go. Last time, a small amount of people were agreeing to something and bringing it in to vote for or against and the numbers were overwhelmingly against, unfortunately.

 

that works too

 

Apex is a pretty competitive clan that takes things seriously. I'm sure @t3rnary would be good at getting things done.

 

I will continue to support startups like this in hopes that they actually succeed. The problem is that it just doesn't seem like there are enough clans on board for leagues to be successful anymore. KCL and the most recent tourney are dead both because there are clans that won't/don't want to have CWs (and no, forcing inactive and active clans to try to make a tourney work does not help the situation), as well as clans that are pretty much inactive. I say that for the time being, clans should just have clan wars at their leisure. Every time a thread like this is made, it's always the same people that come to discuss similar rules. A league can't succeed when only 5 or 6 clans want to participate, and this is true no matter who is trying to lead a new initiative for competitive.

 

Best meme yet, Dask, good job.

 

This.

I wont run a MLK season 2 because i will come back to work in september and i havent enough time to invest. The golden era of competitive scene is behind us and there are too drama around imo.

Moreover, im able to monitoring servers of @Guro (dunno where he is) and these servers will be offline from october/november.

 

The same was true last time. The only clans really playing a lot were AG, NMS and MIST. I think there is actually more competitive clans around at the moment, I just feel like the tournament was not really cared about and, no offence to Sham, poorly executed. There was quite a bit of hype around MLK season 2 as far as I read, so I think we should try to make a league.

 

online league with LAN playoffs IMHO, fly everyone the KAGcon so all the KAG fans can watch the King Arthur's Starleague live

 

We already have the rules !
The rules of the KCL are great.

We just need a

• A organizer
• Streamers (from different continents)
• Prices

That's all we need for a league that works and be advertising !

 

We never settled on league rules. While the match rules of KCL work in a tournament setting, there is some changes that should occur for a league setting (i.e. there can be ties). Also, what about forced matches? I've changed my mind on this, while I would like them, most of the community disagrees and I'm happy to let it go so more people will be willing to join in on the fun.

I also think streamers aren't really needed tbh, and prizes either - I don't think anyone is going to make a prize pool big enough to incentivise winning - who cares about $5 or a couple KAG griefing alt keys?

 

In all kindness, T3 has been asked to do this kind of thing before and it didn't go anywhere. Not to mention he is a dota addict. I believe someone like @Snake19 (who loves KAG more than any of us combined) should run it. Maybe with the help of yourself too

 

KCL was poorly executed; I take no offense by people saying that. As I said to you @Blue_Tiger on steam, I have a lot of ideas about what to improve on, but KCL has to deal with its problems for now. KCL is meant to be an annual tournament, not a year-round league.

Like @Darknighte9 said, not a lot of clans that *actually signed up* have not participated, and I'm really disappointed with that. Imo it's a whole endless cycle, people want to make a league, people don't think it will take off so they don't play, and then the league dies.

EDIT: Sort of like a chicken-and-egg problem; Nobody wants to play in a league because nobody makes good leagues, nobody invests time in making a league because "nobody wants to play in a league".

 

That's probably because I never actually took on anything, I just said I would be willing to. That aside, Snake is taking a break from KAG, I'm not as active anymore, and SpideY doesn't want to commit to a new league. If a new league is organized I think @Colargolator should take charge of it and just not take shit from anybody and not change the rules once they're set.

 

I feel like the league section shouldnt be used anymore unless the person has the majority of clans in favor of it(they could use the tournament section). I obviously disagree with some statements here but ill leave it alone to avoid spamming this. GL with whatever you guys try and hopefully no one tries to force clanwars outside of a tournament

 

it would be so wonderful to have a tournament, as well organized as was the ARL.


We just need motivated people !

 

i tried organizing a tournament but clearly this community has no passion

[13:12:49] <Ej> so nerds
[13:13:01] <Ej> who wants me to organize a kag league
[13:13:05] <Ej> with hypest offline finals
[13:15:54] <Ej> thats what i thought
[13:15:56] <Ej> dead game

 

lol x)

Damn where is freddex ! We need a tournament and website like that : https://forum.kag2d.com/threads/arl-arthurian-league.10419/

I think if we involve only big clans and the most active of Kag Beta the tournament may operate. And that will give much envy/desire to small clan to train to reach this wonderful league!
I remember that the rules of the ARL was very strict in relation to the activity.
We need a league like this one.

If no one has the fucking motivation to make a league like this I will do It annoys me to see to how much people who abandons everything after any obstacles! We do not avoiding the obstacles we explode them!

Spoiler: LEL

Unfortunately I will be hugely busy in my life soon ...
I go into a school that is something similar has a university degree.
That's why I did not wanted to get involved in such a project like this at the beginning.

But if someone like Colar and others willing to help me I would agree to do it. :)

So what do we need?
For me it would be:
- Streamers (two from each continents AUS / US / EU)
- Commentators (two from each continents AUS / US / EU)
- A site (which looks a bit like at the ARL)

Spoiler: CLICK HERE

- Prizes, if someone generous want to give them. ( It is not mandatory)
- Only clans the most active clans will be allowed (needs to be discussed)