change Surrender vote's passing %

Very very very irritating to deal with ingame atm. It just passes way to much because all you need is the majority of 1 team. Would be nice for it to need over 70-80% to pass because having a game end from a 4-3 vote is just bad

 

Tbh I don't see the point of a surrender vote. If a "noob" team is against a better team, it should be an incentive for the worse team to take out the better team, not just giving up on the game, then to be swapped into very similar teams the next round.

Or when someone does a random surrender vote, even when their team is winning. It's annoying and seems like a form of griefing.

 

The surrender vote is implemented to allow people to end stalemates and no caps, or otherwise long and boring matches. The community just uses it the wrong way a lot of the time, I could probably be considered someone who uses it in the wrong way as i've started surrender votes when the match is clearly one sided but our team is hanging on by a thread, and it has been that way for more than 2 hours. But in this case I feel it's justified because I mean, what's the result? There's a very slim chance of us coming back if we can barely hang on, people will leave because the match will begin to become a tedious slog of just trying to get out of your base, and if we do win, the match is probably gonna go on for another 2-3 hours, it's like come on, new map please.

EDIT: Also punk I think you should make the title of this thread a little more specific, when I first went on to it I thought it was a thread trying to suggest the surrender vote itself, then I saw it was about tweaking the democracy of it. :D

 

Ofc but i feel like it is abit cheeky for a game to end based off of 1 persons vote vs the other half of the team(ie
9-8). I just feel like giving up should need more of a team consensus and not just slight majority.

 

Surrenders are fine typically, I start the votes myself when the map is nothing but ballista shredded water filled cancer after 2 hours of people firing from their flag and still no end im sight.

One problem though, there is no way for admins to cancel these votes. Under normal circumstances no, I don't think an admin should be able to interfere with the surrender. However yesterday someone literally joined the server, started a surrender vote and it passed. Half of the surrendering team just wot'd and seemed irked. With all votes there will be people who just favor them because they don't even bother to see what they're voting for. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Up surrender vote requirement to 7/10 imo and if we don't want admins to have the cancel option most definitely make it so only a player who's been on the team for 15-20 minutes can start it.

mfw when blue surrenders in build time ffs

 

If the surrender vote was upped to about 70-80% then I think an admin being unable to cancel the votes would not be that much of an issue, as SOME people read votes before they start pressing keys (Like myself.), it does provide more issues when it comes to things like stubborn people who can't deal with the fact that losing in a video game is a thing and makes it more likely that the majority of a team will get shit on by some guy and his friend, but at least the system would be less abused that way. I'd say 10-15 instead of 15-20 for being able to start the vote in the first place as 10 minutes is still enough time to be able to process "Yes, our team is losing badly but we're just too stubborn to actually die, but now many people on our team are leaving so we're clearly going to lose, and the game's population is gonna tank. Time to surrender."

 

80% was like an at MOST for me. Hell yeah anything more is never going to get passed especially 100%, I never see a vote get passed where all players vote for it. 60 or 70 would be more beneficial for both parties in my eyes (The party of people who are fine with it right now, and the party that wants it to change.).

 

MFW when people spam surrender votes immediately after they lose their last flag. That should be a false vote unless the other team is just refusing to capture the flag and admins should be able to cancel said vote.

Not asking for every vote to have 80%, just the one vote that next maps based off of 1 team's feelings.

 

Seems like a fair enough point. The general though process when i originally made this thread was that "hey if it's 50% they can just raise it to 70%". Now i believe all the votes have the same 50% needed and you would just have to re-code it anyway. i dont have an issue with the idea and i feel like if a player tries to surrender just to stop the other one from capping it would generally be harder to do.

 

If that was the case then a team made of 3 players, having 2 voting Yes and 1 voting No, won't ever manage to get to surrender (let not speak of teams with lesser players).
Unless if the whole team becomes way too desperate to have every member pick 'Yes' -or having some lazy players that are uninterested in voting- right?
While tweaking a vote, a global solution is required; The one that was stated by Potatobird sounds to be a good one but just keep in mind the situation I gave above.