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Easy on the new players

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 8x, Apr 19, 2019.

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  1. 8x

    8x Elimination Et Choix Traduisant la Realité Forum Moderator Staff Alumni Tester
    2. The Young Blood Collective - [YB]

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    "Easy, easy mother******, easy..."

    Just remembered this scene from True Detective, when the character played by MM (not THD's MM but Matthew McConaighey) tells his pals to take it easy and do the job fast.

    https://youtu.be/s_HuFuKiq8U?t=116

    With f2p already in the table, I've seen a couple of games with players just harrasing everybody just because they can. As to wether these "pnerzs" knights want KAG to become more popular or not, I can't really say but my go is that they're not really caring about every single player; for everybody else who wanted the game to have more players and to be more alive and rich, my suggestion is to take it easy on the idea of winning at all costs (I know it's hard for some of you, so it would be even more appreciated for the "gold" players who know the usual community behaviours), to help the new peeps, and not to slaughter all these guys who are struggling with the awkward movement in KAG, its online bug shenanigans and all the stuff they will have to learn to start to enjoy the game in a similar way we do.

    I myself would like to see some players trying to teach the newcomers. It's good that there are some newbie friendly and training servers btw.
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2019
    8x, Apr 19, 2019
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  2. Fuzzle

    Fuzzle Grand Grumbler

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    I'm coming back just to pubstomp some noobs.
     
    Fuzzle, Apr 19, 2019
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  3. joshua12131415

    joshua12131415 Bison Rider Tester

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    But building traps is ok
    • You get to show them cool stuff so they can learn different ways to make traps
    • If they die it's their fault so you don't have to feel guilty about killing new players
    • Teaches the importance of builders (i keep seeing knights constantly trying to jump over things and dying when they could easily go builder and spam blocks / ladders :I)
     
    joshua12131415, Apr 20, 2019
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  4. PUNK123

    PUNK123 Hella wRangler Staff Alumni Tester

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    Blame the developers for allowing seasoned players to literally lie about their animations or "instant" jab. The fact the dying playerbase likes this type of combat shouldn't be relevant when you want to keep new players. It also doesn't help the sinking ship to tell the few players who still play not to try too hard to win when that's probably the only thinking keeping them on the server.

    As for newbie friendly servers ECT:

    That crap never had any realistic success because no one good was there(so there was nothing at all interesting about the combat because you didnt see people do any cool tricks) and joining a server for "noobs" is probably not appealing(for the same exact reason why nubtys skip tutorials). Just treat the new players like bots until they git gud and everything will be fine.
     
    PUNK123, Apr 20, 2019
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  5. ShnitzelKiller

    ShnitzelKiller Haxor

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    This game doesn't lose players because of toxic players, it loses players because it can't handle having players. Yesterday, three servers crashed consecutively, displacing 20-32 people each. Every time that happens, some proportion of players decide it's just not worth the trouble and stop playing. Some proportion of those never come back. This happens about once every couple of hours until we're back to the baseline of <20 players online at any given time.

    Also remember that hilarious humble bundle a year or two ago, where every new player was greeted by a game that wouldn't even launch for a month because the central server was down?
     
    ShnitzelKiller, Apr 23, 2019
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  6. PUNK123

    PUNK123 Hella wRangler Staff Alumni Tester

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    I remember being banned from irc for telling a new player it was because of ddos i believe. Regardless i hope f2p gives an endless stream of nubtys because no one is actually pretending like any work was done on player retention.
     
    PUNK123, Apr 23, 2019
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  7. Vermilicious

    Vermilicious Ballista Bolt Thrower

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    Hey fellas. Just throwing in a suggestion here. How about making one of the servers "newbie"-only, by blocking pre-f2p players? At least for a while, I mean.
     
    Vermilicious, Apr 24, 2019
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  8. venigator

    venigator Catapult Fodder

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    I have no idea what I'm doing in this game.
     
    venigator, May 2, 2019
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  9. blackjoker77777

    blackjoker77777 Haxor Tester
    1. Zen Laboratories

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    You'll get used to it, young one..
     
    blackjoker77777, May 2, 2019
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  10. Elf

    Elf Bison Rider
    1. A Special Forces [SF#]

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    Oh hey, me too! :) You're not the only one.
     
    Elf, May 4, 2019
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