General Map Making Discussion.

The tile with the most breakable states is probably rock with 24 (Thick rock has 24 as thick rock then 24 as rock), you could split that into 4, and give everything a max of 4.

Isn't important, but would allow ruins to look much better.

 

Where's the option to Super Like something?

 

I've tried it, but I have not tried it for saving states/workshops or messing around with it, but simply to check out the files, I did not find anything special about them really, for example placing tents, how do I do that? No idea (Meaning I can't do what I wanted and place tents for the 'other' classes). I was assuming at first we might get a standalone editor with it or some updates to the ingame editor at the least to do these things that we cannot, for example, how would we even place trees? This takes a backburner atm to the current problems, but it seems to have some faults that need fixing

 

Not enough freedom with editor or restrictions to rcon

 

I wish to propose a challenge to fellow mapmakers, not that I'm a prolific or very good one, but I do store a lot of them:
Let us start a repository of maps, dropbox would work perfectly fine for our needs, the few things that we need to do are:
a)Categorize the maps, I have a rough way of doing this, many maps fit in multiple categories though, will go over my current way later down in the post
b)Version the maps
c)Name ALL the maps available, many map makers don't name their maps, this can be a problem
d)Find a way to also credit the damn maps, we can do this by keeping a detailed README in there I guess
e)Preferably also keep a mapcycle made for each folder that provides a sample mapcycle that would work (only linking the latest versions of each map to run).


I would be perfectly fine with making the dropbox, and I'm sure a free account would work, I'm not sure however if a conversation should be made and most mapmakers (and server owners!) added to it, or if we should just make it perfectly open (open to it's own host of problems). I'm also not sure if dropbox can be shared in a way to allow people (server owners, general interested parties) to connect but not upload or change things, although I'm guessing not. If dropbox does not fit the bill I am sure that sugarsync will.

Okay, here is how I categorize my maps currently on my server, and how I can keep them all backed up on our clan dropbox:
/AD - Attack/Defense, no overlap they all go in here
/UCTF - Unlimited CTF, smaller maps, mostly designed around the concept of UCTF, takes 1st precedence for CTF maps
/Coop - Coop maps, no overlap they all go in here
/CTF - Bigger CTF maps including mapgens, takes last precedence for CTF maps
/Duel - Any arena style maps for just fighting archers/knights
/FFA - 3-5 team designed maps
/GH - Gold hunt maps
/RCTF - Rapid Capture The Flag, takes precedence over RDM, if capping the flag is a possibility/it's good for that it goes here.
/RDM - Rapid Death Match
/Template - Templates for map making, different general sizes, easily loaded up.
/Training - Maps to train, whether it's parkour, bombjumping, archery, whatever.


It's what I'm working on now, things like RDM could probably be merged with RCTF and then RCTF just referenced as RDM, CTF could probably all go together but I think the differences in playstyle warrant the seperation. GH is defunct so very few/no maps are made for it. Templates are probably not necessary at all for this pack it's just something I keep around. Folders in folders can definitely exist so that we can separate for example Training maps, but none of these folders have gotten big enough to warrant any splitting in this style, unless I put UCTF under CTF, or RCTF under RDM (instead of a straight merge).

If anyone is willing to take over this directly, that would be beautiful, if not it will go very slow as I just set the basic stuff up and move on from there.

 

Would suggest jump maps, but unfortunately, due to some of the changes, they don't work completely anymore. So there really aren't that many right now.

 

I haven't tried a jump map lately, but I find vaulting much easier in this build(319) than in 228, so it might be possible to include all of the old jumps, maybe not though.
I'll try it out later.

 

The issue is you can't do some of the more fancy jumps that you used to be able to like this:
Start here:






get here:

 

Oh, that.
Yeah I guess you've got a point.