Changes large and small

So there isn't gonna be avatar strength in Overworld either? Because anyone can sit and grind for hours on end to get the best stats... Thank fuck!

 

I bet you there will be Exid clones, who maximize their stats using secret items in the game, and whatwhatinthebutt all of us.
Though, having armor made of my enemies would be awesome, speaking of , will we be able to boost our stats with equipment?

 

So how is the progress on Overworld? It's still coming right?

 

Have my babies.

 

Increasing farming skill when farming = awesome.

Increasing fighting skill when farming = WTF IS THIS SHIT.

But most game use the second option. Killing 100 monsters with my axe increased my "intelligence" stat, wut ?

 

It originally appeared in first computer RPGs which were based on paper RPGs. In a paper RPG it's hard to count increasing stats so you just give away points after leveling up. Sadly not many computer games replaced that system with something more proper.

 

maybe there will be zombies in overworld,that come at night?
or stats may be saved?
But then?max stats must be 100,
and each class shoud cost more,
and each stat should be more hard to get,
and on,and on...

 

Whoa nessy, everyones talkin stats like it's supposed to be some super realistic kind of thing.

I don't give a flyin fuck if jumping increases my intelligence so long as it works out as a fair, balanced and fun mechanic. The best games I've played aren't realistic. KAG is one of them ;D

 

...I still don't think "use a whitelist" is a solution. But I'm glad at least that you have seen the problem. Once respawn with a "perma-death" penalty comes in, I think a lot of the crazy unit hoarding will go away. I also think team stockpiles will make it a lot easier to share gold and items. What I have noticed though, is that many of the builders never want to fight. I really think you underestimate how many people want to be playing 2D minecraft. It would probably be better to just let them do that, at least on the War and Overworld servers. Sun Tzu in The Art of War suggested that you need at least a 2-1 ratio of noncombatants to soldiers to maintain proper logistics, and that's not counting the infrastructure back home. The odds of getting those kinds of ratios is unlikely, even on a whitelisted server, I feel. The buzzsaws are probably a step in the right direction, because I'm betting that without things like mechanization of labor, you're never going to get the productivity needed for an actual economy to form organically from trading. Economies form because of the supply and demand of labor/services. Don't underestimate how many people would like to provide those services if they were allowed. There has to be a way to make the sharing of larger infrastructure nodes/objects and providing of finished goods self-evidently rewarding enough that players will intuitively grasp the sharing of structures and resources without having to design a special rule to force them to or kicking out everyone who doesn't get it yet.

I guess what I'm saying is this; You want to have a medieval themed castle game. But as larger infrastructure becomes required, you will get people who really want to build that infrastructure, and people who really don't want to. When you start forcing the players to do jobs they hate they will just resent you for it. You want people to build giant castles, but the way the game is played won't let them. Whitelisting isn't really a solution, it just moves the problem out of sight.

 

Just want to go ahead and say this guy hit it dead-on. Relying on whitelisting is like saying "Each half of our game is boring to half the population. So we'll just match people together so that it fits." I think you need to try and make it so the majority of people who play this game actually want to do any and all roles, even if only a little bit.

 

I don't know about the rest of yall, but since you're not locked into a specific class, I'm gonna be a jack of all trades. Miner, chopper, knight, archer... ALL DAT SHIT. Switch around on the fly.

 

While you do that, I'll be working on getting God's armor, and become a God myself.

 

And then I'll suffocate you in an impenetrable stone box since you won't be able to break through. WINK WINK

But for real, I'm kind of a jack of all trades in game already; I play whatever class is necessary at the time, so I like that Overworld will play much the same way.

 

It looks like, yes. And I'm glad you took time to answer my questions. Now that I'm not worried, I can go back to lurking again.

 

Most likely on my server, I'll require some sort of character development roleplay when you advance from, say, a miner to swordsman. You'll need a reason. Could be anything, as long as it makes sense.

Anyways, I hope there's much configuration to fit each servers style. Not sure what the gain rate of stats will be, but it would be nice to be able to change the amount required to be a certain class, as well as the rate in which you gain them and the maximum amount you can obtain. Will be useful for servers that want a longer and deeper play style. I imagine Overworld "wipes" spanning, at the most, months on end. Once roleplay becomes stale and everyone's become retardedly powerful, we'd wipe the server and start fresh. New world, new characters, new adventures to unfold.

 

I should be able to use a bomb to shoot fire, like I do now.

Just make the world extrememuch more difficult once everyone maxes out.
Oh, and to Geti, what are your thoughts about Steampunk styles?