[947] People keep accidentally driving cata's/ballista's

I agree. It should be evident now that this a problem with the method of control rather than just inexperience or maliciousness. I've had some close calls in small spaces.

I wonder if they tested the carrying mechanic from alpha but instead requiring multiple people to carry the ballista/catapult, like how it takes multiple people to row a boat? That could be unsatisfying though as it might eliminate the hilarious deaths that result from falling, somersaulting siege machines. I really enjoy them. It would also require a modicum of cooperation.

EDIT: That would never work. :P

 

I think a sort of lock may be a good thing, because I've seen *so* many people take them, pitch them up, drive over walls then go "Im new, dont h8 me", exactly like that, and if you kick them it always gets rejected because the 'new' player whines about it.

 

>newb logic

Just reload with ammo. Don't toss a functional cata off the edge and potentially give enemies a free spawn.

 

Then again, if every instance where a noob (or someone that isn't paying attention), does something dumb... Is this an instance we should remove? I can think of a lot of areas of KAG that could have this logic applied.


I do agree though, it is silly, I'm still an advocate for the old "strong man" approach to siege equipment like we have in classic.

 

I agree,its realy anoying .

 

Fixed in Build 954! http://devlog.kag2d.com/post/68357117199/build-954-new-tdm-maps-waterfalls-and-more

 

YESH ! Thanks KAG Team .

 

Yeah instant capture of siege engines is the worst part about them. Leave them alone for two seconds and any archer can turn them against you. Wall them in and their attacking capabilities are mostly nullified. (Especially for bomb bolts.) So just removing "sit in, instant capture" would fix mostly everything.

 

Crimson's necropost revived the thread, but I want to use this to bring up my dislike of the new wheel popping. Anyone can run up to your base during a moment of siege, set up a ballista in a matter of seconds, and then just pop the wheels. The next issue is that while you can take it over, once you do it's impossible for you to destroy it, because your team owns it. This leaves it open to the enemy if they push back again (as they almost always do), because they can just take it over again. It's useless to you if you recapture it, because it's usually within 5 blocks of the base they were originally trying to assault, so you end up having to defend not only the base, but the ballista as well, when you didn't want it there in the first place. Why not instead put a lock on the ballista wheels, similar to car boots that towing companies use? This could be slashed off by the enemy team so that it's possible to at least drive it into a lake or a hole where it does a lot less damage. Not only that, but it would force people to defend and fortify their siege weapons (god forbid) so that they can't just plant them in the middle of the battlefield and spam stone to the right because of the forced direction from wheel popping.

I also like the idea that Rocinante has, because that way wheel popping doesn't take away all the mobility. A single person would be fine for carrying, though, as long as they're slowed way, way down.

 

But with builders being completely uncooperative, it's really hard to get done. You can switch to it yourself, but then defense is lowered.

 

Builders can break them, but maybe a vote destroy feature would help? If your team doesn't want that ballista anymore, everyone could vote to get rid of it. (only if your team controls it, and if it hasn't been contested recently)