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Minimum Message Count to Start New Thread

Discussion in 'Forum, wiki and other THD pages' started by allknowingfrog, Mar 30, 2012.

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  1. allknowingfrog

    allknowingfrog Bison Rider

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    At the risk of sounding overly nativist, has anyone else noticed that a majority of worthless threads are started by completely new forum users? When I joined the forum, I looked around and participated conservatively.:shad: I didn't feel I had earned my own discussions until I was actually a part of the community. Is it possible to require a basic level of involvement, i.e. 25 posts and one week of membership, to unlock the "Create Thread" button?

    I once saw a new forum user start a valuable conversation. Once. It can happen, but we lose nothing by asking new users to look around a little before posting that great idea. It will still be great in a week.
     
    allknowingfrog, Mar 30, 2012
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  2. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    I personally don't really think it's fair, especially for people who need to post in the help forums (although you could make a case that a majority of the people who post in help would be forced to read the stickies and actually have their problem solved, although if it isn't there, they'd still be locked out). Also, some people haven't visited the forums but they are really great in game and might have a useful issue to post. I mean one such example of this could be if Coughdrop wanted to create a thread about some archer mechanic. His post count is currently at 30, but just because of that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to create a very useful thread. In fact it may be even more useful than someone who has more than 100 posts.

    Personally a better suggestion to me would be to have it so that instead of having the thread button unlocked, to just leave it there, but require a moderator to approve a thread and then allow it to be viewed. This way any redundant/worthless threads can just be dealt with then and it still allows a possible valuable thread to made.
     
    Kouji, Mar 30, 2012
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  3. WarrFork

    WarrFork フォーク Donator Tester

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    Never seen that on any forums and I don't know how this can really help. A new member totally have right to do a new thread like a Well-Know Member. If new can't do a new thread, don't think it will check stickies, he will just do a post in another help thread of another guy.

    Also, the approuval thread before allow to view is not bad but I think this will be good only with the Help! section. Others section, the new member can do threads on it.
     
    WarrFork, Mar 30, 2012
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  4. FliesLikeABrick

    FliesLikeABrick THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    What warrfork said. if a new user can't post threads, they'll just start hijacking other peoples' threads, even if only to ask "hey guyz why can't I make liek new threadsposts?"
     
    FliesLikeABrick, Mar 30, 2012
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  5. Shadlington

    Shadlington THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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    I'm not hot on total denial but could go for approval-needed.
    I believe it is possible to set permissions for that on a per-forum basis, though I'd need to look into it.
     
    Shadlington, Mar 31, 2012
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  6. Worm

    Worm Derpship Commander Donator

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    Why not make a "newbie" forum where people could speak only here and start with own threads, THEN possible to enter all forums?
     
    Worm, Mar 31, 2012
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  7. CoolGreenApple

    CoolGreenApple Catapult Fodder

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    I like the idea to have relatively new forum users' threads moderator approved. Especially since it seems there is almost always a Guard online, so they wouldn't have to wait a year or two.
     
    CoolGreenApple, Mar 31, 2012
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  8. illu

    illu En Garde! Donator Tester

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    What CoolGreenApple said. But maybe limit this approval to only some forums, like "General Discussion", "Classes & Mechanics", "Suggestions & Ideas" and "Help!".
    Still I'm not sure if it's really needed...
     
    illu, Apr 1, 2012
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  9. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Oh god please add this to S&I.
    :shad:
    I mean goodness.
     
    BlueLuigi, Apr 1, 2012
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  10. Jackard

    Jackard Base Burner

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    cant you make this setting specific to the subforum
     
    Jackard, Apr 1, 2012
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  11. Skurcey

    Skurcey Catapult Fodder

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    It s a bad idea, what if a new player has a problem and need forum.
    A good compromise could be a newbie forum, where it would be the only place people with less than maybe 10 or 25 messages could start a new thread :shad:
     
    Skurcey, Apr 1, 2012
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  12. allknowingfrog

    allknowingfrog Bison Rider

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    I guess I mostly had S&I in mind when I thought of this. General Discussion would also benefit. Obviously the help forum should be available to new users. That's probably how many of them end up here.
     
    allknowingfrog, Apr 2, 2012
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  13. BlueLuigi

    BlueLuigi :^) Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    Another thing to consider, minimum amount to start a group. Preferably one of a decent size like 50 posts.
     
    BlueLuigi, Apr 2, 2012
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  14. Kouji

    Kouji Cold, Uncaring, Sadistic, Evil and Cruel Meanie Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester
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    I personally wouldn't have any issue approving new threads if it were added as a thing to Suggestions and Ideas. It'd save me the work of having to looking up older threads that were already there and it'd end up looking cleaner (for you guys at least, I can still see deleted threads) since you wouldn't see all those locked threads. Actually, for S&I I'd say 50posts or 2 weeks before you can make a suggestion without approval simply because I have rarely if ever seen anyone he meets those requirements even bother with searching.

    Also yeah, groups should probably have the same thing as well.
     
    Kouji, Apr 2, 2012
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