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Wiki New wiki

Discussion in 'Forum, wiki and other THD pages' started by Furai, Jul 30, 2013.

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  1. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    Hey,

    So from now we have two wikis available under addresses:
    https://wiki-old.kag2d.com/
    https://wiki.kag2d.com/wiki/Main_Page

    Wiki-old is exact copy of wiki. I believe that we should use the first one for alpha and the latter for the Beta. What do you think?

    Names were chosen like that because of all the links around forums (and in support e-mails) linking to the wiki would have been broken otherwise.

    Of course we will need contributors but for now hold aback. I'll give you notice when you can start modifying it. I hope that we still have some users interested in helping us.

    As I'm writing it now, I got an idea - maybe we should create dedicated team of wiki contributors like for example guards. Just a random idea but might help encourage people to help out with gathering documents.
     
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  2. eamono

    eamono Arsonist

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    I'd be interested in contributing to the wiki, but I don't think wiki contributors should be limited to a select group, I think everyone shoud be able to contibute :)
     
  3. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    It will be more like an open group to which everyone can apply. It would involve some special forums available only to members so the discussion would be kept in one place. Anyway, it is a loose idea. If people think that it's not needed then we won't do it.
     
  4. New wiki looks pretty cool.
     
  5. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    Ok, so it's all fine now. wiki.kag2d.com will be for beta. Feel free to contribute.
     
  6. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    Should I delete pages for things that don't exist in beta?

    (I'm marking them all with Category:Alpha for now.)
    e: Gonna change them to {{Obsolete}}
     
  7. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    Sounds fine. Don't delete anything.
     
  8. illu

    illu En Garde! Donator Tester

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    Added a notice to the main page of the alpha/classic wiki so people don't unintentionally update the old wiki with newer beta/scripting build stuff. This does not need to be the final look or texts (feels free to change it) - I just wanted to have this done for now.

    If the old wiki will stay as some kind of backup or archive then this might suffice (and we could probably stop updating the latest blogposts etc). Especially when the classic version gets no more updates.
    If both wikis are going to exist in parallel then we could maybe make it more clear that people still can (and should if they don't like outdated content) add and update stuff to make the wiki be in line with the latest (last?) classic version. So instead of leading them away to the other wiki through an infobox we'd better change the whole welcome message.
     
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  9. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    I believe they will work in parallel.
     
  10. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    Also, message from Joe:
     
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  11. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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    It would appear that uploading images doesn't work.
    We've tried uploading this image, but it doesn't appear properly, and when you click it, you get this message:
    Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access /images/f/fc/Controls.png on this server.

    Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at wiki.kag2d.com Port 443
     
  12. jrgp

    jrgp THD Team THD Team Administrator Global Moderator

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  13. illu

    illu En Garde! Donator Tester

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  14. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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  15. ParaLogia

    ParaLogia tired Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator Tester Official Server Admin

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  16. Furai

    Furai THD Team THD Team Administrator

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    I'll forward it to Joe as soon as he is on-line.
     
  17. Elate

    Elate Catapult Fodder

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    Windows install. Parts 1-3 are wrong, since you download the client and open the server from the install directory of that.
     
  18. Lieber

    Lieber Is Probing Uranus Global Moderator Forum Moderator Donator Tester

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    The entire language wikis are outdated, they'll need to be updated once the main one is done.
     
  19. illu

    illu En Garde! Donator Tester

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    In my opinion they'll need to get removed. I don't want to crush anyone's dreams but I think KAG won't become that popular and important that a translated wiki would be necessary and worth all the hassle. Yes, even with that anticipated Steam release. All the old translated wikis were heavely outdated most of the time. In fact, none of them were actually up-to-date at any point in time nor even nearly as complete as the English one. People just started the translation of some pages then got tired of it and stopped after about 10% has been done. Also no one really cared to update the translated wikis to keep them in line with the latest builds. (Man, we can't even manage to keep the English one updated...) When visiting a wikipage in their language people would stumble upon poorly translated and incomplete content most of the time. There is not much to learn from content which is two months old and doesn't reflect how the game actually works in the current build.
    And while we're at it: The way we handled translations was a mess. If we ever should consider multilingual wikiing, we should go the proper way and use the MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle.

    [/rant]
    illu has spoken.
     
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  20. lavalord

    lavalord Haxor Staff Alumni Donator Tester

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    cheers, there is still more things I need to add/change.
     
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