On votekicking

I agree with you totally. People are so ignorant when it comes to actually doing whats right. I've been kicked/banned from servers multiple times before because of false accusations, or some other ridiculous reason. Just today I tried to tell people that there was a hacker on red team. Long story short, people start saying I'm the hacker and I get kicked instead. Most of the time this kind of behavior ruins the game for me. It isn't fair to me, or anyone else when we are falsely kicked/banned.

I personally work for a (Trying To Not Advertise) server, and know what to look for when it comes to hackers. In KAG, its pretty simple too. All you normally ever see are speed-hacks, so its pretty easy to find out who the person is, and get them out of the server. Yet people still make uneducated decisions when it comes to votekicking.

Also, check out THIS thread.
This person has a fantastic idea that I really hope comes to KAG as soon as possible.

 

LOL, it seems like we are playing different KAG, gentlemen. I'm tired of not being able to kick the guy who ruines my/others stuff and makes fun of it. Too many times people just ignore it. So yeh... voting system is very far from being at least acceptable.

 

If the other team don't vote for kicking a griefer/hacker/afk the votekick never succefully kicks the target. Also, the votekick message takes up 1/5 of my screen which can be a great handicap sometimes and there is no do nothing option for votekicks.

There were already suggestions for implenting a grief-screen (a little hud showing what the target is doing)
Contra: not too easy to implement, the extra screen would take up even more place and a griefer could simply stop griefing the moment a votekick starts.

A system (not used anymore) should auto detect griefers. But geti misses the skills to get such a system working properly. that's why we can't have nice things.

 

Ever since I got un-fairly vote kicked for "griefing I've alway's voted no <3" (unless I saw them do it and agree)

 

having admin's 24/7 is not supportable, besides they can kick someone faster, but most towers collapse before that happens.

It's not that hard if you don't let the system kick players. The system already detects deconstructive players. If you change that to a rating system, it would be way easier to kick potential griefers.
eg.
Player X collapsed a building with 5 blobs created from the own team. Player X rating +5 (5)
Player X killed a teammate, rating +5 (10). 10min without change of playerX's rating, rating -3 (7).
Votekick started against Player X 6 votes needed instead of 8.

It's just a suggestion, I don't rly care if it gets implemented due to the fact that a griefing detection system takes up more ressources and I prefer better performance.

 

It's fun how people always post these threads about votekicking and abuse of it in a place that said people don't even know of or bother to actually look it up somewhere.

That being said, there have been countless amounts of these threads. Y u no search and add your opinion?

 

I feel like votekicking is the best, and worst thing for KAG. Today I was on Black Death CTF and was helping build shops, reinforcements, and also a tree farm. I'm a big fan of underground tree farms and shops because in the long game especially on large maps, many original structures that are built above ground do not see things through to the end of the match. Anyways back on topic, I dropped a pine seed down in an area close to spawn that I had dug out primarily for a tree farm. Along comes a guy named obzeen who chops down the tree I planted and then proceeds to take it above ground along with the saw I recently purchased. Since there was only one other tree near spawn I decided to go take back my pine seed and saw and put them where I originally had them. For whatever reason, he somehow thought that was griefing and without any warning attempted to vote kick me. Within 30 seconds I was kicked out 10 to 3 for something I didn't even do. (shout out to Lord Quickstone and the two others that voted against and for bailing me out when obzeen tried to vote kick me a second time) I could go on about the problems of the votekicking system but it absolutely annoys me when people just blatantly click yes without even trying for a second to fathom what is going on.

 

do you know COD kill cam? would be wonderful if when a votekick starts the votekicked player's last steps would be shown in a small box near the votekick message (but would have to decrease the message considerably, its too big :/), i generally only vote on the kick option if someone trustworth voted, or if someone tell me on skype the vote is legit, im almost aways playing on skype, else i ignore the message

edit-
"-They make a dinghy (or two) (or ten)"
there is a player which i dont remember the name, which keeps making catapults and dinghys to throw then and make that water glitch, wasting wood, gold, and time, instead of building, i already votekicked him like 3 times from random servers and banned him on my server, having fun is ok, but not slowing your team down and doing antigame stuff

 

Actually the vote is dependent on yes votes, not voting and voting do the same thing since the amount of yes votes is what determines the vote.

 

I thought that enough no votes kick the voter. That's why I make sure to vote no if the griefer is on the other team, and yes if the person is likely innocent, and on the other team.

 

I don't think so but i've been wrong before

 

I hate when people just start votes like that.
I mean, on one match, an idiot kicked the one good guy on my team (other than me) for killing his chicken.
And everyone voted yes even though he was knight and in the enemy base.

I think that they should bring back the Type Reason option with votes, so you can actually kick people for legit reasons. Then, the regular votes would be obsolete.

Another thing that I wish would happen would be to tell what the votekick was that kicked you.
Whether it was griefing, teamkilling, a ping-kick, or kicked by a mod, it's devastating for new people to be randomly disconnected, and then show that you were banned. After all, in almost every game and in real life, ban means that you are gone for good.

 

Well then no vote should be able to be seen by the people getting voted for griefing. IE, if they click to vote normally it still shows on the chat that someone started one, and who is voting. So, make those invisible to the people getting voted out so they have not a single clue that anyone is even voting, coupled with the image/video showing them griefing when you vote them out.

 

ps: he isnt a griefer

 

The pain is real on the vote-kick system. I saw players who just wander, doing nothing bad when suddenly they get kicked with a 9 yes-0 no vote. But they are so blind even admins hardly help here.
If you vote you should state the exact reason, like: throwing saw to spawn/drill our tower, not just "griefed"
I got tired of random votes, so I ask the people for a reason, but no answer comes. Either they are mad kids who hate someone, or just don't read the chat.
They won't listen to admins, or if you freeze them they get mad.
Next thing is the next map vote. Some doesn't even see it, and it needs way too much vote. It often fails with a 16-5 (17 required) vote... triple vote spam intensifies
The vote box also hides the bottom of the screen.
My solution: The good old 'Press F1-yes or F2-no' would be nice.
-You can't see what others vote (prevents chat spam and following other's vote blindly)
-It is show in the chat, not on the screen
-You press a button instead of clicking

 

So more or less, Alpha Voting (that had a small translucent window w/ timer at the top corner, where nothing ever happened), but with chat posted starts, and stops.

That's preferable to what we have.

 

If they added the "video" idea, and add back the "give a reason" option, it'd help out a lot.